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The stream I saw said there was barely any noticeable lag. Not discounting this experience, but I suspect the specific corporate network might play a significan

The stream I saw said there was barely any noticeable lag. Not discounting this experience, but I suspect the specific corporate network might play a significant role here.

delfinom 7y ago
Corporate networks don't magically add latency. You would need a corporate network that idiotically sent things over the wire to a corporate office on another continent.
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- wdroz 7y ago
  Maybe they have a "smart" corporate firewall that inspect packets.
- jcfrei 7y ago
  They are also not magically low latency. Maybe there are some QoS rules in place that deprioritize Stadia's video stream. According to the video the mobile connection was fine and the router just treats traffic over wifi differently.
  - mikkom 7y ago
    Or it might be that mobile connection is better because the bandwidth needs are much lower for the mobile-size video feed.
- dijit 7y ago
  Corporate networks don’t add latency because they’re corporate. Corporate networks vary. It’s such a generalisation that it’s easy to argue both for and against. I can say that the majority of corporate networks will have a higher latency to internet resources than an equivalent home network. Why? Well, NAT adds latency, the more there is in the lookup table the longer it will take, even with a beefy cpu on the firewall/NAT device. More complex firewall rules too, will impede. If there is any IPS (intrusion prevention service) on the line then that may add some latency. Then there’s simply the hops that your network traffic would have to take to even hit the border. Not counting things like QoS rules that need to be evaluated to de-prioritise things like VOIP (which stadia, if it’s streaming using UDP, might even look like to a dumb router). Most corps also do not just let traffic outbound, if there’s any R&D or risk of leaking then there’s a lot of filtration rules on the line and often that is centralised. I work for a global company and our internet traffic exits the corp network more than 200km from where I’m sitting.
- loriverkutya 7y ago
  You are seriously underestimating the things (routers, packet inspection firewalls, proxys, cross office VPNs) in corporate networks, also the completely crazy rules corporates comes up: all traffic is routed to the us no matter where you sit in the world, etc.
- cyborgx7 7y ago
  >Corporate networks don't magically add latency. That's why I specified "this specific" corporate network. >You would need a corporate network that idiotically sent things over the wire to a corporate office on another continent. There are much more plausible scenarios than that, like packet inspections and side-effects of attempting to MITM any SSL packets.

The stream I saw said there was barely any noticeable lag. Not discounting this experience, but I suspect the specific corporate network might play a significant role here.

delfinom 7y ago

Corporate networks don't magically add latency. You would need a corporate network that idiotically sent things over the wire to a corporate office on another continent.

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wdroz 7y ago
Maybe they have a "smart" corporate firewall that inspect packets.
jcfrei 7y ago
They are also not magically low latency. Maybe there are some QoS rules in place that deprioritize Stadia's video stream. According to the video the mobile connection was fine and the router just treats traffic over wifi differently.
- mikkom 7y ago
  Or it might be that mobile connection is better because the bandwidth needs are much lower for the mobile-size video feed.
dijit 7y ago
Corporate networks don’t add latency because they’re corporate. Corporate networks vary. It’s such a generalisation that it’s easy to argue both for and against. I can say that the majority of corporate networks will have a higher latency to internet resources than an equivalent home network. Why? Well, NAT adds latency, the more there is in the lookup table the longer it will take, even with a beefy cpu on the firewall/NAT device. More complex firewall rules too, will impede. If there is any IPS (intrusion prevention service) on the line then that may add some latency. Then there’s simply the hops that your network traffic would have to take to even hit the border. Not counting things like QoS rules that need to be evaluated to de-prioritise things like VOIP (which stadia, if it’s streaming using UDP, might even look like to a dumb router). Most corps also do not just let traffic outbound, if there’s any R&D or risk of leaking then there’s a lot of filtration rules on the line and often that is centralised. I work for a global company and our internet traffic exits the corp network more than 200km from where I’m sitting.
loriverkutya 7y ago
You are seriously underestimating the things (routers, packet inspection firewalls, proxys, cross office VPNs) in corporate networks, also the completely crazy rules corporates comes up: all traffic is routed to the us no matter where you sit in the world, etc.
cyborgx7 7y ago
>Corporate networks don't magically add latency. That's why I specified "this specific" corporate network. >You would need a corporate network that idiotically sent things over the wire to a corporate office on another continent. There are much more plausible scenarios than that, like packet inspections and side-effects of attempting to MITM any SSL packets.