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I feel like much of these claims are only in the past. I used my 2009 Macbook for 5 or so years, and it only lasted that long because I was able to upgrade it.

I feel like much of these claims are only in the past. I used my 2009 Macbook for 5 or so years, and it only lasted that long because I was able to upgrade it. It came with a comical 2GB of ram, and that would have been a trash—as in worthless to me—if it couldn't be upgraded. I was able to sell it, only because they're desirable, and they used to be more reliable. The latter quality is not so evident any more. Many naive customers are duped into buying the bottom of the line MBP or Air, and then are dumbfounded when their thing runs out of resources. I blame apple for making less reliable products for higher margins and offering their customers less agency over their devices. Their marketing pitch is usually that you should have to know the details, but you do, because they're trying to screw you. The people with money to blow I'm not so concerned about, it's more the person who buys a 13" MBP for 2k that has 4GB of ram and 128gb ssd, and can't ever upgrade the thing.

simonh 7y ago
>I feel like much of these claims are only in the past. It's not actually possible to buy a new Mac with less than 8GB RAM these days, and that seems likely to be plenty for a typical user for the lifetime of a machine bought today. 128 GB SSD is a bit tight, but flash drives are cheap. I see it the opposite way, in the past minimum Mac specs always seemed miserly, but nowadays they're pretty capable.
- brailsafe 7y ago
  Now 8Gb is a decent baseline, but it took a very long time to get there for a very expensive computer.
Sangeppato 7y ago
On the other hand, my 2014 15" MBP didn't come with less than 16Gb and still packs a quad-core 45w CPU, a decently fast SSD, a crazy good chassis and trackpad and a bright hi-dpi display. I think it's still better than most of the 800-900€ 15" new laptops offered today, but it's not upgradable. My only issue with it is the battery which will fail sooner or later, but it shouln't be too hard to remove it.
- brailsafe 7y ago
  I was quite fond of my 13" from late 2013. One of the major differences that I find quite distressing is the soldered on SSD in most if not all new models. Good luck with data recovery if necessary.

simonh 7y ago

>I feel like much of these claims are only in the past. It's not actually possible to buy a new Mac with less than 8GB RAM these days, and that seems likely to be plenty for a typical user for the lifetime of a machine bought today. 128 GB SSD is a bit tight, but flash drives are cheap. I see it the opposite way, in the past minimum Mac specs always seemed miserly, but nowadays they're pretty capable.

brailsafe 7y ago
Now 8Gb is a decent baseline, but it took a very long time to get there for a very expensive computer.

Sangeppato 7y ago

On the other hand, my 2014 15" MBP didn't come with less than 16Gb and still packs a quad-core 45w CPU, a decently fast SSD, a crazy good chassis and trackpad and a bright hi-dpi display. I think it's still better than most of the 800-900€ 15" new laptops offered today, but it's not upgradable. My only issue with it is the battery which will fail sooner or later, but it shouln't be too hard to remove it.

brailsafe 7y ago
I was quite fond of my 13" from late 2013. One of the major differences that I find quite distressing is the soldered on SSD in most if not all new models. Good luck with data recovery if necessary.