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I'm not sure, I've never tried installing Linux on a Macbook Pro. I know that it is/was possible for certain hardware but also that it was never easy or straigh

I'm not sure, I've never tried installing Linux on a Macbook Pro. I know that it is/was possible for certain hardware but also that it was never easy or straight forward. Apple doesn't help but they aren't making their laptops reject unsigned code or anything like they do for the phones. Given that OSX and Linux are so similar under the hood and that standing up a VM is so easy, I've never really seen the point of installing linux except to say you can.

saagarjha 7y ago
> Given that OSX and Linux are so similar under the hood and that standing up a VM is so easy Similar in what way?
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- henryfjordan 7y ago
  They both share their roots in Unix. Linux is an open port of Unix whereas OSX is a fork of BSD which is itself also derived from Unix `ls`, `mv`, `cp` and other command line utility functions work relatively similarly across OSX and Linux. OSX has a package manager (brew) that works similarly to Package Managers found on Linux, etc... If you learn to use Linux, switching to OSX is relatively painless compared to Windows (although WSL might have changed that)
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  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Ah, I was expecting you to say something lower level than that. Homebrew is however quite unlike package managers I've used on Linux, and even MacPorts is a little different…I've heard that WSL is pretty decent and presumably APT works on it, though I haven't touched it since it first came out and it was broken in some way that I cared about.
    - pcnix 7y ago
      You'll find that linuxbrew exists, apart from the AUR being a thing. And yes, apt and other distro package managers work perfectly fine in both wsl and wsl2.
  - dehrmann 7y ago
    > OSX has a package manager (brew) To be clear, it's not supported by Apple. I've also been favoring MacPorts, lately because of brew's broken file ownership model.
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    The UNIX on NeXT and derived OS is just there mostly for compatibility purposes, and not much else. http://www.nextop.de/NeXTstep_3.3_Developer_Documentation/ http://www.nextop.de/NeXTstep_3.3_Developer_Documentation/ https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-Internals-Approach-paperback/dp/0134426541 https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-Internals-Approach-paperback/d... https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-iOS-Internals-Apples/dp/1118057651/ref=pd_sbs_14_t_2/136-1690480-8404605 https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-iOS-Internals-Apples/dp/111805...

saagarjha 7y ago

> Given that OSX and Linux are so similar under the hood and that standing up a VM is so easy Similar in what way?

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henryfjordan 7y ago
They both share their roots in Unix. Linux is an open port of Unix whereas OSX is a fork of BSD which is itself also derived from Unix `ls`, `mv`, `cp` and other command line utility functions work relatively similarly across OSX and Linux. OSX has a package manager (brew) that works similarly to Package Managers found on Linux, etc... If you learn to use Linux, switching to OSX is relatively painless compared to Windows (although WSL might have changed that)
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- saagarjha 7y ago
  Ah, I was expecting you to say something lower level than that. Homebrew is however quite unlike package managers I've used on Linux, and even MacPorts is a little different…I've heard that WSL is pretty decent and presumably APT works on it, though I haven't touched it since it first came out and it was broken in some way that I cared about.
  - pcnix 7y ago
    You'll find that linuxbrew exists, apart from the AUR being a thing. And yes, apt and other distro package managers work perfectly fine in both wsl and wsl2.
- dehrmann 7y ago
  > OSX has a package manager (brew) To be clear, it's not supported by Apple. I've also been favoring MacPorts, lately because of brew's broken file ownership model.
- pjmlp 7y ago
  The UNIX on NeXT and derived OS is just there mostly for compatibility purposes, and not much else. http://www.nextop.de/NeXTstep_3.3_Developer_Documentation/ http://www.nextop.de/NeXTstep_3.3_Developer_Documentation/ https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-Internals-Approach-paperback/dp/0134426541 https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-Internals-Approach-paperback/d... https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-iOS-Internals-Apples/dp/1118057651/ref=pd_sbs_14_t_2/136-1690480-8404605 https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-iOS-Internals-Apples/dp/111805...