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Im so tired of these comments on HN. Some people want a laptop they can pull apart and fix themselves. Those people should buy something else. when I was younge

Im so tired of these comments on HN. Some people want a laptop they can pull apart and fix themselves. Those people should buy something else. when I was younger and had more time than money, I used to upgrade RAM and the SSD myself. Then I started making money. Then it became seriously dumb to spend 2 hours doing all that nonsense when I can just pay upfront to get a maxed out RAM and Hard drive. Can’t afford it? Then buy something else! I honestly don’t underatand this constant complaining about repairing laptops yourselves. What a waste of time! Leave it to the Apple store techs to do it for you.

hk__2 7y ago
> Im so tired of these comments on HN. Some people want a laptop they can pull apart and fix themselves. Those people should buy something else. The issue arises when you want a laptop you can pull apart and fix yourself AND macOS. You can’t buy something else.
mopsi 7y ago
> Then it became seriously dumb to spend 2 hours It doesn't have to be 2 hours. It doesn't have to be more than 5-10 minutes. > I can just pay upfront to get a maxed out RAM and Hard drive. Yes, but you can't pay upfront and get a SSD that will be launched in 2023. You'll be forever stuck with whatever tech was available at the time of purchase. > I honestly don’t underatand this constant complaining about repairing laptops yourselves. What a waste of time! Leave it to the Apple store techs to do it for you. Apple can't repair them either, the design is unrepairable, that's why the failing keyboards were such a fuck-up. They had to throw away the whole top half of the chassis because keyboard was riveted to it. It's as anti-consumer and anti-environment as it gets. Given the growing electronic waste problem, I expect such practices to be outlawed sooner or later, and I'm somewhat surprised that Apple isn't already positioning itself as leader in long-lasting products that extract maximum value from natural resources put into them. Repairability and upgradability are cornerstones of environmentally responsible business, but Apple seems to be heading in the opposite direction.
- wtallis 7y ago
  > Yes, but you can't pay upfront and get a SSD that will be launched in 2023. You'll be forever stuck with whatever tech was available at the time of purchase. Given that the SSDs you can buy right now outstrip the IO bandwidth your laptop CPU provides, the only real benefit that upgrading to future SSDs could provide would be a better price per GB. If you're seriously concerned about wanting more storage a few years down the road, you probably also want to buy a machine now and immediately upgrade it with aftermarket storage.
asadkn 7y ago
Apple store techs can't really fix stuff. All they can do is replace and it takes 3-10 days depending on country. Yeah, when their batteries swell up twice in 3 years, and they take 11 days each time and you're out of your main workstation for that long? See how that compares with an hour fixing it yourself.

hk__2 7y ago

> Im so tired of these comments on HN. Some people want a laptop they can pull apart and fix themselves. Those people should buy something else. The issue arises when you want a laptop you can pull apart and fix yourself AND macOS. You can’t buy something else.

mopsi 7y ago

> Then it became seriously dumb to spend 2 hours It doesn't have to be 2 hours. It doesn't have to be more than 5-10 minutes. > I can just pay upfront to get a maxed out RAM and Hard drive. Yes, but you can't pay upfront and get a SSD that will be launched in 2023. You'll be forever stuck with whatever tech was available at the time of purchase. > I honestly don’t underatand this constant complaining about repairing laptops yourselves. What a waste of time! Leave it to the Apple store techs to do it for you. Apple can't repair them either, the design is unrepairable, that's why the failing keyboards were such a fuck-up. They had to throw away the whole top half of the chassis because keyboard was riveted to it. It's as anti-consumer and anti-environment as it gets. Given the growing electronic waste problem, I expect such practices to be outlawed sooner or later, and I'm somewhat surprised that Apple isn't already positioning itself as leader in long-lasting products that extract maximum value from natural resources put into them. Repairability and upgradability are cornerstones of environmentally responsible business, but Apple seems to be heading in the opposite direction.

wtallis 7y ago
> Yes, but you can't pay upfront and get a SSD that will be launched in 2023. You'll be forever stuck with whatever tech was available at the time of purchase. Given that the SSDs you can buy right now outstrip the IO bandwidth your laptop CPU provides, the only real benefit that upgrading to future SSDs could provide would be a better price per GB. If you're seriously concerned about wanting more storage a few years down the road, you probably also want to buy a machine now and immediately upgrade it with aftermarket storage.

asadkn 7y ago

Apple store techs can't really fix stuff. All they can do is replace and it takes 3-10 days depending on country. Yeah, when their batteries swell up twice in 3 years, and they take 11 days each time and you're out of your main workstation for that long? See how that compares with an hour fixing it yourself.