A) I'm well aware of clasp, and its a cool project (and post javascript, as well) but it's hardly anywhere near production quality right now (unlike say, clojur

A) I'm well aware of clasp, and its a cool project (and post javascript, as well) but it's hardly anywhere near production quality right now (unlike say, clojurescript). So I don't think it's a counters my argument about the CL ecosystem (I'm sceptical that it would make much of a dent even if it becomes a technical success beyond Dr Meister's wildest dreams). D) Of course, but if you require some additional JVM based tooling for a JVM language like clojure, you lose 0% of your potential audience and introduce no additional friction, which is not at all the case for CL (nor would it be for, say C++ or Lua).