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Not sure why you're being downvoted. "Epstein didn't kill himself" is still a meme. That proves there's a market for the Epstein news, IMO. The public absolutel

Not sure why you're being downvoted. "Epstein didn't kill himself" is still a meme. That proves there's a market for the Epstein news, IMO. The public absolutely cares. Plus, there's evidence it's being swept under the rug: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/leaked-footage-abc-jeffrey-epstein https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/leaked-fo...

52-6F-62 7y ago
I think because you easily provided the proof they were wrong, as evidenced by an article published by the media about how it's not being addressed publicly to the public's satisfaction. It's too common to treat the media as a homogeneous entity rather than a fractured and variable group.
jjeaff 7y ago
I'm hindsight, it's obvious that an interview like that should have been aired. But it makes total sense not to air something so inflammatory back then with corroborating evidence. It would have sounded pretty outlandish. A girl says she was made a sex slave by a guy named Epstein that didn't really have a public profile and she was forced to sleep with the prince of Wales. As a journalist, you need impeccible sources and evidence to back your story up before you publish something like that.
- m0zg 7y ago
  >> you need impeccible sources No problem: just hire Fusion GPS to write a "dossier". A source so "impeccible" that you can write about it for years in spite of there being not a shred of truth in it.
- darrenf 7y ago
  > prince of Wales Andrew is the Duke of York, not Prince of Wales - that's Charles.
  - SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
    I'll take the downvotes, but if he's American like I am, we fought pretty hard to not ever have to care about royal distinctions ;) (Although... I didn't know that, I wasn't really sure what Andrew's relation in position was to Charles)
  - jjeaff 7y ago
    I stand corrected. Don't even know the difference. I think every time I hear 'prince' for English royalty, I just automatically think "Prince of Wales.
- malvosenior 7y ago
  Epstein absolutely had a massive public profile when this story would have aired. When he was first arrested there were many stories about him. There were multiple witnesses and mountains of credible evidence. It was a cover up plain and simple.
- anigbrowl 7y ago
  Sadly it is not that outlandish. The Duke of York (not Prince of Wales) was famous int eh 1980s for his louche lifestyle and there has been a veritable string of scandals revealing numerous highly respected public figures in the UK to have sordid lives of criminal abuse away from the public gaze over the last 20 years. Of course it would be a tricky story for any journalist, editor, or publisher to handle, not least due to Britain's plaintiff-friendly libel laws. But outlandish? Not at all. 'Outlandish' are things like Prince Andrew's claim that a war injury caused him to completely stop sweating for several years and that this provides a watertight* alibi against his accuser's allegations. * I couldn't help myself
  - jjeaff 7y ago
    That's not as outlandish as it could be, correct? That is unusual, but would you say outlandish? Perhaps irregular, but not 'outlandish'... I also couldn't help myself. If you haven't been following the impeachment hearings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sezBhcnSxI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sezBhcnSxI0
aphextim 7y ago
I enjoy the "Epstein didn't kill himself" meme as it encompasses both ideas. Popular, he was murdered to be silenced from his handlers. Unpopular, he is still alive and living somewhere in secret. However if the meme was changed a little bit, even to "Who killed Epstein?" that would omit the 2nd more unpopular theory altogether.
- SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
  I liked how I saw it explained here. That the Epstein murder is our generations largest admission from the elite class that they not only exist but the rules definitely do not apply to them. I think the Epstein memes are definitely something people of every ideology enjoy.
  - malvosenior 7y ago
    Since the media won't properly cover the story, memes are the only way the public has to keep it from being swept under the rug. > That the Epstein murder is our generations largest admission from the elite class that they not only exist but the rules definitely do not apply to them. Couldn't agree more, thankfully the internet is throwing a wrench into the plan. Even if it's unclear that justice will ultimately be served.
- selimthegrim 7y ago
  My personal favorite was the same_spiderman.jpg with Spiderman multiplied a few times with the Photoshop clone tool titled "All the billionaires who want to kill Epstein"

52-6F-62 7y ago

I think because you easily provided the proof they were wrong, as evidenced by an article published by the media about how it's not being addressed publicly to the public's satisfaction. It's too common to treat the media as a homogeneous entity rather than a fractured and variable group.

jjeaff 7y ago

I'm hindsight, it's obvious that an interview like that should have been aired. But it makes total sense not to air something so inflammatory back then with corroborating evidence. It would have sounded pretty outlandish. A girl says she was made a sex slave by a guy named Epstein that didn't really have a public profile and she was forced to sleep with the prince of Wales. As a journalist, you need impeccible sources and evidence to back your story up before you publish something like that.

m0zg 7y ago
>> you need impeccible sources No problem: just hire Fusion GPS to write a "dossier". A source so "impeccible" that you can write about it for years in spite of there being not a shred of truth in it.
darrenf 7y ago
> prince of Wales Andrew is the Duke of York, not Prince of Wales - that's Charles.
- SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
  I'll take the downvotes, but if he's American like I am, we fought pretty hard to not ever have to care about royal distinctions ;) (Although... I didn't know that, I wasn't really sure what Andrew's relation in position was to Charles)
- jjeaff 7y ago
  I stand corrected. Don't even know the difference. I think every time I hear 'prince' for English royalty, I just automatically think "Prince of Wales.
malvosenior 7y ago
Epstein absolutely had a massive public profile when this story would have aired. When he was first arrested there were many stories about him. There were multiple witnesses and mountains of credible evidence. It was a cover up plain and simple.
anigbrowl 7y ago
Sadly it is not that outlandish. The Duke of York (not Prince of Wales) was famous int eh 1980s for his louche lifestyle and there has been a veritable string of scandals revealing numerous highly respected public figures in the UK to have sordid lives of criminal abuse away from the public gaze over the last 20 years. Of course it would be a tricky story for any journalist, editor, or publisher to handle, not least due to Britain's plaintiff-friendly libel laws. But outlandish? Not at all. 'Outlandish' are things like Prince Andrew's claim that a war injury caused him to completely stop sweating for several years and that this provides a watertight* alibi against his accuser's allegations. * I couldn't help myself
- jjeaff 7y ago
  That's not as outlandish as it could be, correct? That is unusual, but would you say outlandish? Perhaps irregular, but not 'outlandish'... I also couldn't help myself. If you haven't been following the impeachment hearings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sezBhcnSxI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sezBhcnSxI0

aphextim 7y ago

I enjoy the "Epstein didn't kill himself" meme as it encompasses both ideas. Popular, he was murdered to be silenced from his handlers. Unpopular, he is still alive and living somewhere in secret. However if the meme was changed a little bit, even to "Who killed Epstein?" that would omit the 2nd more unpopular theory altogether.

SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
I liked how I saw it explained here. That the Epstein murder is our generations largest admission from the elite class that they not only exist but the rules definitely do not apply to them. I think the Epstein memes are definitely something people of every ideology enjoy.
- malvosenior 7y ago
  Since the media won't properly cover the story, memes are the only way the public has to keep it from being swept under the rug. > That the Epstein murder is our generations largest admission from the elite class that they not only exist but the rules definitely do not apply to them. Couldn't agree more, thankfully the internet is throwing a wrench into the plan. Even if it's unclear that justice will ultimately be served.
selimthegrim 7y ago
My personal favorite was the same_spiderman.jpg with Spiderman multiplied a few times with the Photoshop clone tool titled "All the billionaires who want to kill Epstein"