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I like it, lots of my friends like it as well. If they did not enact it, things on the road would be worse. They just need to make it more. The cost of public

I like it, lots of my friends like it as well. If they did not enact it, things on the road would be worse. They just need to make it more. The cost of public transport is ridiculous, London has to be the most expensive city to travel around.

reubenyeah 16y ago
Really? You think £1.30 to get a bus as far as you like is expensive? and £4 to get as many buses as you like in a day is expensive?
- seabee 16y ago
  Maybe not for you. I did a little calculation at http://listentotaxman.com/ http://listentotaxman.com/ and put in the minimum wage for a 37.5 hour week. If you need to take a few buses to get to work, over 10% of your £190 weekly pay packet gets eaten up on travel. It's definitely cheaper (though less flexible) than running a car on your own, but some of the costs of a car can be spread between more than one person, which isn't the case with public transport. However, I was pleasantly surprised to see that teenagers now get free bus travel and discounted Tube fares. I could've done with that a few years ago!
  - windsurfer 16y ago
    London doesn't allow you to tranfer to another bus with a single ticket? Here in Ottawa busses are $3.25 and about to go up, and I think that's more than fair. (I suppose pun intended)
    - russss 16y ago
      Yeah, London doesn't have transfer tickets. It's annoying. At any rate, if you take more than 2 buses per day then getting a monthly bus pass/travelcard is cheaper.
benjiweber 16y ago
Not if you buy a bike, which is also the fastest way to get around London. In my experience it's about twice as fast as cars (average speed is less than 10mph anywhere near the centre) and still faster than trains, unless you happen to work right by one of the major terminals and live by a train station. It costs around 12p per mile to run a bicycle including capital cost, maintenance, additional food etc (though until you hit around 10k miles the costs may be hidden from you). I commute around 1k miles a month and so it costs me around £6 per day to commute by bike, and it is £16 for a slower equivalent train journey. Cars really aren't an alternative as they're too slow.

reubenyeah 16y ago

Really? You think £1.30 to get a bus as far as you like is expensive? and £4 to get as many buses as you like in a day is expensive?

seabee 16y ago
Maybe not for you. I did a little calculation at http://listentotaxman.com/ http://listentotaxman.com/ and put in the minimum wage for a 37.5 hour week. If you need to take a few buses to get to work, over 10% of your £190 weekly pay packet gets eaten up on travel. It's definitely cheaper (though less flexible) than running a car on your own, but some of the costs of a car can be spread between more than one person, which isn't the case with public transport. However, I was pleasantly surprised to see that teenagers now get free bus travel and discounted Tube fares. I could've done with that a few years ago!
- windsurfer 16y ago
  London doesn't allow you to tranfer to another bus with a single ticket? Here in Ottawa busses are $3.25 and about to go up, and I think that's more than fair. (I suppose pun intended)
  - russss 16y ago
    Yeah, London doesn't have transfer tickets. It's annoying. At any rate, if you take more than 2 buses per day then getting a monthly bus pass/travelcard is cheaper.

benjiweber 16y ago

Not if you buy a bike, which is also the fastest way to get around London. In my experience it's about twice as fast as cars (average speed is less than 10mph anywhere near the centre) and still faster than trains, unless you happen to work right by one of the major terminals and live by a train station. It costs around 12p per mile to run a bicycle including capital cost, maintenance, additional food etc (though until you hit around 10k miles the costs may be hidden from you). I commute around 1k miles a month and so it costs me around £6 per day to commute by bike, and it is £16 for a slower equivalent train journey. Cars really aren't an alternative as they're too slow.