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Ask HN: Any “Git diff”-like service but for when terms of conditions changes?
One gets the terms of conditions updates via email, like linked-in, or just as start-up popup when you init the app, like xcode, anything that helps to understand exactly what changed especially for well-known apps?
- alexsmolen 7y agoThis is what https://tosback.org/ https://tosback.org/ does, I believe.
- sashk 7y agoUnfortunately there is too much noise for some TOS.
- colejohnson66 7y agoVisualPing? https://visualping.io/ https://visualping.io/
- torvald 7y agoI made a simple script, as I prefer plain text emails. https://torvald.no/web-change-detection.html https://torvald.no/web-change-detection.html
- sosuke 7y agoThanks for sharing! I like the idea of getting the diff in my email notification.
- sosuke 7y agoI was about to suggest http://www.changedetection.com http://www.changedetection.com and I hadn't detected they had a name change! lol
- z3t4 7y agoWayback machine and text diff.
- omneity 7y agohttps://monitoro.xyz https://monitoro.xyz does exactly this (assuming you use it with IFTTT to send updates to your favorite endpoint). Disclaimer: I'm the author, and I'm happy to answer questions.
- yayitswei 7y agoYou could try Diffbot.
- jmfayard 7y agoNot directly what you ask, but "Terms of Service didn't read" is great https://tosdr.org/# https://tosdr.org/#
- Dyaz17 7y agoYou can also use https://www.guardscript.com https://www.guardscript.com that does this for free and send you a diff in your email.
- christefano 7y agoFollow That Page has a good diff by email service for pages that change. https://www.followthatpage.com https://www.followthatpage.com I use Follow That Page to monitor about a dozen websites for things like news and events, changes to a change log.txt, and so on. It would work well for TOS and TOC web pages.
- dockers22 7y agoI'm a co-founder of https://termscout.com https://termscout.com and our TermAlerts service does exactly what you are looking for. We have attorneys on staff and looked into other tools, but understand that about half of the contracts that live on the web are not webpages, but versioned PDFs and could not find anyone that can catch when that occurs, so we built it ourselves. When a change occurs we email a redline (diff) and in the process of working on a dashboard that you can see not only the version of the contract when you submitted it and the new one, but overtime be able to scroll through all previous versions of that contract too...very much inspired by Google Maps Street View timeline tool. :)
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- JosephRedfern 7y agoIt sounds like a really valuable service. Here is some un-solicited (hopefully) constructive feedback, which you are free to ignore: Your website makes it very hard to sign up! The landing page only seems to offer a newsletter subscription, and it's not immediately clear which of the business services does what. Once I land on TermsAlert, AT FIRST it seems like there's no automated onboarding -- but after further inspection, it becomes that there is? I feel like this should stand out much more.
- dockers22 7y agoThank you for that feedback and I agree, we could do a lot better with CTAs and user journey. Feedback is always greatly appreciated and will relay that to our web team. :)
- haggy 7y agoIt appears that you are primarily focused on biz2biz is that correct? If so, I couldn't find much on the site related to what guarantees your company provides. For example, what happens if you give me a "certified breakdown" of an AWS terms sheet and it turns out to be wrong or missing information that costs my company a lot of money?
- ratonofx 7y agoThere is https://tosback.org/ https://tosback.org/ or https://www.docracy.com/tos/changes https://www.docracy.com/tos/changes for most popular services Or You can build your own https://github.com/pde/tosback2-data https://github.com/pde/tosback2-data
- lcall 7y agoThere are some interesting suggestions here. Another (free) is https://tosdr.org https://tosdr.org , which reviews many agreements but I don't know of a diff feature in it. I have read & then saved agreements to a common directory (with memorable names & dates) when agreeing to them, and wrote a little script (assumes *nix) that basically converts the html to text using w3m or such, shortens lines (or every long line looks different), then runs diff. Maybe I could post it at my simple site if there is interest (or see lukecall.net for an email address in the footer, and ask). (Of course, that doesn't work for the ones that don't let you save the agreement content, short of doing a screen capture.) (I posted my thoughts or rants about this problem at http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854587150.html http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854587150.html , and will add a link to this discussion as a resource.... Hm. My page links to a related discussion on slashdot.org where a minority of comments are somewhat interesting, like the one with "IAAL" in its text.) Is there some movement to standardize ToS and such agreements, so you can just recognize "oh yeah, it's just agreement #7 again" and not have to bother further (similarly to CC or known FLOSS licenses?)
- damasko 7y agovimdiff
- laurynas-s 7y agoI am the founder of https://pagecrawl.io https://pagecrawl.io and this is exactly what can you do with the service. I have been considering releasing a product only for tracking ToS only but haven't managed to release it yet.
- imduffy15 7y agohttps://scrapinghub.com/autoextract https://scrapinghub.com/autoextract may help you with this, it will provide the article in a structured form which you can then diff.