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Right, because if you are using your computer mostly to download stuff, you are OK if your GPU occasionally hangs.
by mixedbit 7y ago
Right, because if you are using your computer mostly to download stuff, you are OK if your GPU occasionally hangs.
- SamuelAdams 7y agoIt doesn't have to be that bad. Every organization has constraints - particularly people's time. If Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu come up with some new video codec and plan on releasing it in 12 months into their services, and I know 80% of my consumers use video streaming services, then I know that I should allocate most of my development resources / people towards enabling the new codec on GPU's my company sells. Knowing how people use your products helps allocate new development features. This problem isn't unique to intel.
- mistermann 7y agoIs this codec scenario plausible, that something so significant would be broadly adopted and Intel would need user usage data to decide whether to support it?
- gnode 7y agoUsage data could be very useful for decisions on what to dedicate die area to, and how to price products. They might find that a market segment doesn't do a lot of playing 3D games, but does spend a lot of time watching Youtube on battery, and so make the decision to drop integrated GPU shader cores and dedicate more die area to video decoding, to make energy efficiency better when watching video.
- Faark 7y agoBut now we are not speculating about potential new additions, we want to know utilization of existing circuits to allocate resources & improve in the future. I'd hope this could be measured without collecting a ton of personal data.
- gnode 7y agoThese goals blur together. R&D effort, and usage of die area are all justified by market potential. Knowing how large the market for a technology or tradeoff actually is has value. > I'd hope this could be measured without collecting a ton of personal data. Intel's claim is that they don't: "we would like your permission to collect [...] The categories of websites you visit, but not the URL itself" also the privacy safeguarding statement at the top of the page. The whole purpose of CIP is to gather data on actual users' computing needs. For many computer users, the web is most of their computing experience -- it seems appropriate therefore to include usage of the web in the program. Much like any customer experience study, privacy is an issue. Intel do at least claim to be mitigating the impact to privacy.
- user858584 7y agoEdit: so they need to know every URL I access because they what to improve GPU or their drivers?
- 9dl 7y agoYes And intel want it for free
- SamuelAdams 7y agoThat's not what Intel is collecting. From the article: > what data is collected and how is it used? > The categories of websites you visit, but not the URL itself > If I participate in the program, is there any personal information in the data collected? > Will not include the URL (web address) for specific sites visited
- TallGuyShort 7y agoUnless they're shipping a fairly complete domain -> category map to your machine and doing all categorization offline, unlikely, then they absolutely have the ability to collect it, and will "accidentally" do so at some point. We've all seen this movie now, multiple times. edit: also the knee-jerk reaction most people are going to have to this, is concern about certain categories of websites.
- throwanem 7y agoThird party services (e.g. https://www.webshrinker.com/apis/ https://www.webshrinker.com/apis/) exist to perform this kind of classification. They'll be doing the classification API calls from the client (CIP-enrolled) machine, then sending the results (and not the domains or URLs that generated them) back to their own endpoint.
- rvnx 7y agoThen webshrinker would know everything you visit right ?
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- markstos 7y agoEvery organization has constraints and in Intel's case they are constrained to only $70 billion in revenue.
- cylon13 7y agoThat sounds like a finite number to me.
- mikeyouse 7y agoIn 2018, Intel spent $15B on share repurchases and dividend issuances... if more cash could improve their offerings, they aren’t acting like it.
- JetSpiegel 7y agoOver 20%. Is there a P/E ratio-analogue, but for this kind of dead weight financialization?
- ryacko 7y agoI'm of the opinion they should add FPGAs to everything. Every chip now has an insane amount of die area dedicated to the northbridge or the L3 cache. Anything else turns the junk we buy into garbage the moment everyone switches to a new standard.
- colejohnson66 7y agoAren’t FPGAs slower than ASICs though?
- fhars 7y agoThat depends a bit on whether you count the fabrication time for a new ASIC towards the application startup time when switching applications or not.
- ryacko 7y agoCertainly propagation delay is higher. But for many applications it is cheaper to implement them in software than ASICs. And besides, FPGAs are used for web scale applications, many of them applicable to small computers.
- Angostura 7y agoIf you have 80% of the desktop market, you can just aggregate web traffic statistics - your customers will be a representative sample