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Public transportation is a shitty alternative to personal transportation. The future is autonomous personal transportation. Public transportation: * Has very

Public transportation is a shitty alternative to personal transportation. The future is autonomous personal transportation. Public transportation: * Has very high overhead costs * Forces people into public transportation oriented life schedules * Is unfriendly to those with disabilities * Is unfriendly to those who do shift work * Is a MASSIVE disease vector * Only effectively serves densely populated areas and makes living in regional areas hell Autonomous vehicles carrying 1-4 passengers each on direct point to point routes have none of these issues and come with a number of bonuses like flexible demand/supply management and off-peak secondary purpose uses such as carrying deliveries. Ban public transportation. Stop wasting resources on a dead-end non-solution that literally doesn't work anywhere in the world. People keep pointing to Japan as the shining example of mass transit done right, but none of those people have ever been on a peak hour Tokyo train rubbing crotches against each other and barely able to breathe while station staff help physically stuff people into overflowing carriages. Go all in on self-driving infra. It's the next 'car'. Mass transit is this generation's 'horse'. We've had a hundred years to get mass transit right and after all this time we've definitely proven it just can't be done.

bluGill 7y ago
That only works in suburban sprawl. You cannot walk anywhere because you need your own personal car to cover the distance. If you like that model fine, but many people like the benefits of living close to where they are going.
cdirkx 7y ago
I want to dispute the claim that public transport does't work anywhere. Specificly for the points you mentioned: > Forces people into public transportation oriented life schedules In my city almost all busses run at 10 minute intervals and the trains to other cities run at 15-30 intervals. Whenever I go somewhere I just go to the station and the next one will be there shortly. > Is unfriendly to those with disabilities Every region in my country is legally obliged to have transport available for the elderly, disabled or chronic sick. My grandparents can order a free taxi-like service with trained personel and accommodated for wheelchairs etc. > Is unfriendly to those who do shift work Agreed, at night not much runs here, but there are other options available (nightbus, taxi). As for the "massive overhead", I dont quite understand. The concentration of passengers and required infrastructure should lower overhead, economies of scale and such. You mention the situation in Tokio but to me that sounds like they need more public transport, not less. The trains there transport 40 million people every day [1]. In contrast, there are only around 4 million cars in Tokio. I dont think there is physically enough space to fit an additional 10-40 million cars, even if they drive themselves. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Greater_Tokyo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Greater_Tokyo
trixie_ 7y ago
100% agree. In the future public transportation will look inefficient compared to autonomous personal transportation.

bluGill 7y ago

That only works in suburban sprawl. You cannot walk anywhere because you need your own personal car to cover the distance. If you like that model fine, but many people like the benefits of living close to where they are going.

cdirkx 7y ago

I want to dispute the claim that public transport does't work anywhere. Specificly for the points you mentioned: > Forces people into public transportation oriented life schedules In my city almost all busses run at 10 minute intervals and the trains to other cities run at 15-30 intervals. Whenever I go somewhere I just go to the station and the next one will be there shortly. > Is unfriendly to those with disabilities Every region in my country is legally obliged to have transport available for the elderly, disabled or chronic sick. My grandparents can order a free taxi-like service with trained personel and accommodated for wheelchairs etc. > Is unfriendly to those who do shift work Agreed, at night not much runs here, but there are other options available (nightbus, taxi). As for the "massive overhead", I dont quite understand. The concentration of passengers and required infrastructure should lower overhead, economies of scale and such. You mention the situation in Tokio but to me that sounds like they need more public transport, not less. The trains there transport 40 million people every day [1]. In contrast, there are only around 4 million cars in Tokio. I dont think there is physically enough space to fit an additional 10-40 million cars, even if they drive themselves. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Greater_Tokyo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Greater_Tokyo

trixie_ 7y ago

100% agree. In the future public transportation will look inefficient compared to autonomous personal transportation.