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So Eric Schmidt would pay some pennies? (Since he is paid $1 a year :) )
by klbarry 16y ago
So Eric Schmidt would pay some pennies? (Since he is paid $1 a year :) )
- jarek 16y agoOne might assume that the system has a way of establishing the true magnitude of an individual's compensation.
- jpwagner 16y agofat chance...maybe the above joke is silly, but no one has "a way of establishing the true magnitude of an individual's compensation."
- jarek 16y agoWhat are some legal ways for an individual to be compensated that wouldn't appear in the tax documentation of either the individual or the company in question? "Legal" is used here to mean "would stand up in a court of law in the relevant jurisdiction."
- jpwagner 16y agoThe fact is that if Eric Schmidt were fined 100% of his "net worth" he would be among the rich again within a year or two. Suppose a professional gambler made exactly the same amount as Eric Schmidt per year. This "system" would fine them equally. But the gambler relies on his bankroll as his asset, whereas Schmidt relies on his reputation and personal network. How can you make this fair?
- jarek 16y ago1) Whether yearly income is representative of present and/or future net worth is entirely unrelated to whether the magnitude of said income is discoverable. 2) Everyone has a different definition of "fair." Which one are you using?
- jpwagner 16y ago(1) The original question is ["elsewhere it's like [this], is that better?"] I merely point out a major caveat. (2) From the article: "In reality, fairness is not so much about the actual distribution of loot as it is about the psychology of how you feel about it."
- redthrowaway 16y agoWhat's wrong with rise in net worth over a year?
- hackerblues 16y agoIf I go into debt that year does that mean the fine gives me money?
- redthrowaway 16y agoI'm not an expert, but I don't believe debt reduces your net worth. Irresponsible use of that debt does, but if I borrow $250k to buy a house, the value of that house offsets the debt. It's a wash in the end, is it not?
- hugh3 16y agoWell obviously the grandparent should be read as "If my net wealth decreases over a year then should the fine give me money?"
- jarek 16y agoIn Soviet Sweden, the fine pays you. /ducks
- jpwagner 16y agomaybe i took "true" too literally.
- borism 16y agoIn Sweden equity compensation is made so prohibitively expensive it ensures that everyone gets paid more or less appropriate market salary. Of course very rich guys have their workarounds anyway, for example I recall reading that Ingvar Kamprad pays himself avg IKEA worker salary. Still better than those ridiculous $1 salaries of SV execs.
- othermaciej 16y agoIt sounds like you are against equity compensation and in favor of the Swedish laws that make it prohibitively expensive. Why is that? US technology startups are heavily based on equity compensation, so probably many folks here would assume it is a good thing.
- borism 16y agono, actually I don't have an opinion whether swedish system is good or bad, as I haven't experienced it personally, only heard and read about it and know few people who had problems with it. in the end they seem to be doing fine. but I think there needs to be more optimal solution than just equity compensation or just cash-salary compensation.
- uytrtyui 16y agoIkea is the most notorius tax avoider in the world. The great swedish furniture company is actually a dutch charity.
- borism 16y agoBill & Melinda Foundation?
- uytrtyui 16y agoThey do actually give away money - although with some strings attached (like your government not using open source!) IKEA itself - not the owner - is a charity, registered in Holland to be in the Eu but actually in the Dutch antilles so they don't pay Dutch tax and they can keep secret any donations