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Looking at a 10 year window. There's a low probability, but non-zero, that I'll be able to correctly align and distribute DOM elements both horizontally and ver

Looking at a 10 year window. There's a low probability, but non-zero, that I'll be able to correctly align and distribute DOM elements both horizontally and vertically. I might accomplish this by dropping support for the Internet Explorer family of browsers.

fragmede 7y ago
Still, our tools will need us to pick one screen size and only be able to handle either smartphone, tablet, or desktop resolution with such grace. Magically handling all 3 will take a bit longer.
at-fates-hands 7y ago
> I might accomplish this by dropping support for the Internet Explorer family of browsers. I was just working on some legacy stuff last week. Only worked in IE11, in compatibility mode. I had to use vanilla JS to get some data out of a huge form. Yeah, document.querySelector('#app') doesn't work. I found out, "It only works on modern browsers" which IE11 doesn't qualify as, which is kind of funny to me. I ended up using document.getElementById('app') instead though, which did work.
- non-entity 7y ago
  You could probably find a polyfill to implement querySelector for IE. I've done that for a number of features I didn't want to re implement from scratch
- jauco 7y ago
  What about Document.getElementById(“app”)?
  - 013 7y ago
    >SyntaxError: illegal character
    - jauco 7y ago
      Yeah. Thats ios smart quotes for you. Re-type the “ by hand.
- stringyham 7y ago
  Is there some joke I'm not getting? querySelector has worked on IE since version 8.
  - at-fates-hands 7y ago
    Except when you're running in compatibility mode.
    - stringyham 7y ago
      Compatibility mode would be like coding for IE7. Not IE11's fault :D
      - at-fates-hands 7y ago
        Yeaper. "Legacy software man, it's a helluva drug!"
buboard 7y ago
Try tables
- scotty79 7y ago
  You laugh but I recently had some floats but they didn't do exactly what I so I tried to make a flexbox sized to content, and it occured to me that I just want good old table to align my items.
  - buboard 7y ago
    i m dead serious. i use tables even with bootstrap, i like the way they gracefully realign between horizontal and vertical modes in mobile. (e.g. here https://coinzaa.com/ https://coinzaa.com/) Tables are great. I believe that all these grid systems will end up reinventing tables 100% anew. I propose that they add new elements to HTML instead, <grid> <gr> <gd> etc. They will work 100% exactly like tables, but semantic people won't feel guilty using them.

fragmede 7y ago

Still, our tools will need us to pick one screen size and only be able to handle either smartphone, tablet, or desktop resolution with such grace. Magically handling all 3 will take a bit longer.

at-fates-hands 7y ago

> I might accomplish this by dropping support for the Internet Explorer family of browsers. I was just working on some legacy stuff last week. Only worked in IE11, in compatibility mode. I had to use vanilla JS to get some data out of a huge form. Yeah, document.querySelector('#app') doesn't work. I found out, "It only works on modern browsers" which IE11 doesn't qualify as, which is kind of funny to me. I ended up using document.getElementById('app') instead though, which did work.

non-entity 7y ago
You could probably find a polyfill to implement querySelector for IE. I've done that for a number of features I didn't want to re implement from scratch
jauco 7y ago
What about Document.getElementById(“app”)?
- 013 7y ago
  >SyntaxError: illegal character
  - jauco 7y ago
    Yeah. Thats ios smart quotes for you. Re-type the “ by hand.
stringyham 7y ago
Is there some joke I'm not getting? querySelector has worked on IE since version 8.
- at-fates-hands 7y ago
  Except when you're running in compatibility mode.
  - stringyham 7y ago
    Compatibility mode would be like coding for IE7. Not IE11's fault :D
    - at-fates-hands 7y ago
      Yeaper. "Legacy software man, it's a helluva drug!"

buboard 7y ago

Try tables

scotty79 7y ago
You laugh but I recently had some floats but they didn't do exactly what I so I tried to make a flexbox sized to content, and it occured to me that I just want good old table to align my items.
- buboard 7y ago
  i m dead serious. i use tables even with bootstrap, i like the way they gracefully realign between horizontal and vertical modes in mobile. (e.g. here https://coinzaa.com/ https://coinzaa.com/) Tables are great. I believe that all these grid systems will end up reinventing tables 100% anew. I propose that they add new elements to HTML instead, <grid> <gr> <gd> etc. They will work 100% exactly like tables, but semantic people won't feel guilty using them.