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I’m always a little surprised to be reminded that Usenet still exists.

Cyph0n 7y ago
It still exists primarily for binary file sharing. Overall, I think Usenet works much better than non-private torrent trackers.
- greglindahl 7y ago
  Usenet has always been like the proverbial blind people and the elephant... people uninterested in binaries are unlikely to agree that Usenet works "better" for the kind of content that it was destroyed for carrying.
  - Cyph0n 7y ago
    Your analogy also applies to those who blame binary sharing for the downfall of text-based Usenet usage, simply because search engines, specialized discussion forums, and social media contributed much more to its death. A big reason why Usenet is still alive and kicking is thanks to piracy. The same applies to IRC (XDCC), but probably to a lesser extent.
    - bbanyc 7y ago
      It used to be that every ISP ran a Usenet server. The reason why they stopped is a crackdown on illegal content (piracy and obscenity) on binary groups. The reason why almost nobody complained is that text groups were already in terminal decline. Mutually reinforcing cycles that led to the current state of Usenet as a seedy backwater where it was once an essential part of the Internet (and the UUCP network before it).
pwg 7y ago
It still exists, and some groups do continue to have discussions. For access to the textual groups, you can use Eternal September (https://www.eternal-september.org/ https://www.eternal-september.org/) or AIOE (https://news.aioe.org/ https://news.aioe.org/) with a newsreader (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders) to see what discussions are continuing to happen.
- y0ghur7_xxx 7y ago
  Sorry I have to chime in, because there is also my very own nntp server with also a web interface for people who don't want to download a client: https://in.memory.of.e.tern.al/comp.misc/ https://in.memory.of.e.tern.al/comp.misc/ There are still some people there, and talking about stuff. It's very much like hacker news, but with much less people :)

It still exists primarily for binary file sharing. Overall, I think Usenet works much better than non-private torrent trackers.

greglindahl 7y ago
Usenet has always been like the proverbial blind people and the elephant... people uninterested in binaries are unlikely to agree that Usenet works "better" for the kind of content that it was destroyed for carrying.
- Cyph0n 7y ago
  Your analogy also applies to those who blame binary sharing for the downfall of text-based Usenet usage, simply because search engines, specialized discussion forums, and social media contributed much more to its death. A big reason why Usenet is still alive and kicking is thanks to piracy. The same applies to IRC (XDCC), but probably to a lesser extent.
  - bbanyc 7y ago
    It used to be that every ISP ran a Usenet server. The reason why they stopped is a crackdown on illegal content (piracy and obscenity) on binary groups. The reason why almost nobody complained is that text groups were already in terminal decline. Mutually reinforcing cycles that led to the current state of Usenet as a seedy backwater where it was once an essential part of the Internet (and the UUCP network before it).

pwg 7y ago

It still exists, and some groups do continue to have discussions. For access to the textual groups, you can use Eternal September (https://www.eternal-september.org/ https://www.eternal-september.org/) or AIOE (https://news.aioe.org/ https://news.aioe.org/) with a newsreader (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders) to see what discussions are continuing to happen.

y0ghur7_xxx 7y ago
Sorry I have to chime in, because there is also my very own nntp server with also a web interface for people who don't want to download a client: https://in.memory.of.e.tern.al/comp.misc/ https://in.memory.of.e.tern.al/comp.misc/ There are still some people there, and talking about stuff. It's very much like hacker news, but with much less people :)