>To dream of running far enough away to a mythical place where you alone get to make the laws is just futile escapism. The Amish and the Mormons just moved with

>To dream of running far enough away to a mythical place where you alone get to make the laws is just futile escapism. The Amish and the Mormons just moved with their laws to a new place, and if you didn't agree with their laws, you still got kicked out. Strawman. I literally wrote "like the Amish or Mormons did" yet you describe living alone in a hidden hut somewhere, Theodore Kaczynski style. >Why does it have to be defensible? Even in the XIX century, Mormons were eventually subjugated by force. They only managed to last several decades under their own laws. Today under the "Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act" it's a federal crime to operate a submersible vessel without nationality in international waters. The claimed jurisdiction is global. So no, it's not possible to move away anywhere on Earth anymore. The moment anything substantial would be created, some state would claim it as their own. >Why that should be as easy as a CRUD app on a virtual server with some rented storage. What's the point of this hyperbole? The difference between an engineering problem and scifi is that the former can already be done, but is expensive or otherwise impractical, while scifi problem like mind uploading can't be done for any money today. Engineering problems, like making rockets cheaper, are solvable by throwing money at the problem as long as general physical laws permit improvements. >the world is full, nobody is escaping anywhere Which is exactly why developing space travel technology is so important.