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This is stupid. Most desktop people don't want to touch ARM anything and rightly so - Qualcomm's chips suck (Apple's do great but even they don't seem to think

This is stupid. Most desktop people don't want to touch ARM anything and rightly so - Qualcomm's chips suck (Apple's do great but even they don't seem to think they're rest to go ARM Mac yet), there's no battery life advantage especially when you do all the desktop things and you have to deal with ARM snowflake crap along with vastly limited SoC support for new OS versions. And needless to say without specialized CPU support the 64-bit Intel emulation is going to be dog slow - remember emulating ARM Android images on X64? There's literally no upside to this. I just wish AMD puts out a great mobile CPU and we can have even better competition for Intel in laptop market. So no thanks - I'll let Intel have their laptop monopoly if that means I can run standard x86 hardware with great support for non Windows OSes.

htk 7y ago
This comment couldn’t be more shortsighted. For one, I see Macs running on Apple’s own ARM chips a real possibility in the near future.
- blinkingled 7y ago
  Can I ask you why? Do you know what you will be gaining and what you will be giving up? If it's just geeky dream it's ok but saying it like it would be objectively a better result to throw away standardized x86 for ARM on the desktop when you can also just carry a iPad instead is just silly. In Apple's case it's not going to be x86 and ARM macs - just ARM macs and for their business it makes total monetary sense to control everything from SoC/CPU to the OS. But if you are getting excited about that as a consumer, you don't really understand the irony - move away from Intel monopoly to more Apple monopoly.
mlacks 7y ago
The whole point of starting when you’re not ready, is to get tour foot in the door so you have something to improve upon. Even if the emulation is slow and barely useable, it can and will be refined using modern tools and practices in the future. Trying something out that is out of the norm is the the whole point of innovation. I’m super excited to see Microsoft’s progress in this space.
- blinkingled 7y ago
  That's all hunky dory but no amount of software innovation is going to speed up running x64 code on ARM. Qualcomm would just need to build that into the CPU and at that point it is a circus. So yeah I am cool with trying out things that have potential but something that has not upside and will never be good - because CS - I will justly call it stupid.

htk 7y ago

This comment couldn’t be more shortsighted. For one, I see Macs running on Apple’s own ARM chips a real possibility in the near future.

blinkingled 7y ago
Can I ask you why? Do you know what you will be gaining and what you will be giving up? If it's just geeky dream it's ok but saying it like it would be objectively a better result to throw away standardized x86 for ARM on the desktop when you can also just carry a iPad instead is just silly. In Apple's case it's not going to be x86 and ARM macs - just ARM macs and for their business it makes total monetary sense to control everything from SoC/CPU to the OS. But if you are getting excited about that as a consumer, you don't really understand the irony - move away from Intel monopoly to more Apple monopoly.

mlacks 7y ago

The whole point of starting when you’re not ready, is to get tour foot in the door so you have something to improve upon. Even if the emulation is slow and barely useable, it can and will be refined using modern tools and practices in the future. Trying something out that is out of the norm is the the whole point of innovation. I’m super excited to see Microsoft’s progress in this space.

blinkingled 7y ago
That's all hunky dory but no amount of software innovation is going to speed up running x64 code on ARM. Qualcomm would just need to build that into the CPU and at that point it is a circus. So yeah I am cool with trying out things that have potential but something that has not upside and will never be good - because CS - I will justly call it stupid.