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As someone who pays for multiple Google services this is not something I'm interested in at all. I would be very interested in something that gave me the paid

As someone who pays for multiple Google services this is not something I'm interested in at all. I would be very interested in something that gave me the paid features in all of their services: YouTube red (no ads + custom content no one likes), Google storage (one), Google Plus Music (or whatever they're replacing it with) for "infinite" music, YouTube TV, Stadia, and my Fi account. If Google integrated these billing systems and made a cohesive feature set that was constantly expanding it would be a no brained to spend like +$50/month on this bundle (phone + backups + entertainment). I'm assuming they don't do this because of fragmentation across product teams or anti monopoly stuff.

dmitriid 7y ago
It’s also because Google Accounts is such a complicated mess by now that no one inside Google knows how it works: https://grumpy.website/post/0PU1U2r3v https://grumpy.website/post/0PU1U2r3v
- crazygringo 7y ago
  That's all just UX complaints. Behind the scenes, a Google account is a single unified Google account, as far as I know. (In other words, individual products can be confusing, but I don't think the backend inherently prevents unified billing.)
  - neogodless 7y ago
    Tell that to someone using G Suites! I don't know the real internal structure, but I've experienced a frustrating number of "unsupported features" or "unexpected errors."
  - dmitriid 7y ago
    Those UX complaints wouldn't exist if Google Accounts were as internally unified as you make them out to be. With a unified set of internal tools and APIs for teams to work with and make sure their product works. Meanwhile, it took YouTube more than ten years to be able to support not just the default user. BigQuery is 9 years this year, and can't support multiple users in the browser etc. etc. It gets worse than that. Because they are still kinda unified. You get blocked for whatever reason on YouTube? Oh. Say goodbye to the rest of Google properties: play store, your dev account etc.
- lxgr 7y ago
  Actually, compared to all of my other gripes with Google services, I've always found their account management to be pretty coherent and easy to understand lately. SSO on iOS across the browser and Google's native apps, and "sign in with Google" in 3rd party apps, works flawlessly for me. The only thing I'm missing is a "sign me out" button (per device or even on all devices) that actually works.
  - dmitriid 7y ago
    As a person who uses at least two accounts (personal and work), and a third account on YouTube (I've had it since before Google Accounts), the number of Littles things that way consistently don't work is baffling. Well, you can see just one day's worth at the link :)
crazygringo 7y ago
Funny, I'm the exact opposite -- the only thing I'm interested in is storage, so I'm glad I don't have to pay for the rest. But the products you list all serve mostly dramatically different markets. I would assume they don't offer a bundle because the venn diagram here would actually be quite small. I don't think the main reason is internal politics or anti monopoly.
lxgr 7y ago
YouTube red already gives you access to everything music-related, last time I checked: It includes YouTube Music premium (which in turn apparently is the successor of Google Play Music). The branding is pretty messed up there (as usual for Google), but the service itself is actually decent, and if I wasn't already on Spotify I would seriously consider switching. 2€/$ more for ad-free YouTube would definitely be worth it. That actually outlines one problem I'd have with such an "everything Google" bundle: Very likely, I'd already be paying for one or more of the components of one of its competitors, and the deal would be much less attractive as a result.
- gravypod 7y ago
  That would be the "hook". You may have 1 to 3 of the things already included but the remaining things would get you to say "well..m overall it's less money than having both." It's like Apple products. I already have a chat app but if I have an iPhone iMessage is pretty amazing
  - lxgr 7y ago
    That would work in getting me "hooked" only if the existing, 3rd party service is not ver sticky in some way. Spotify definitely is for me (integration with my home stereo, playlists shared with friends etc). It would definitely convince me to give the bundled product an honest chance that I otherwise wouldn't, I suppose.

dmitriid 7y ago

It’s also because Google Accounts is such a complicated mess by now that no one inside Google knows how it works: https://grumpy.website/post/0PU1U2r3v https://grumpy.website/post/0PU1U2r3v

crazygringo 7y ago
That's all just UX complaints. Behind the scenes, a Google account is a single unified Google account, as far as I know. (In other words, individual products can be confusing, but I don't think the backend inherently prevents unified billing.)
- neogodless 7y ago
  Tell that to someone using G Suites! I don't know the real internal structure, but I've experienced a frustrating number of "unsupported features" or "unexpected errors."
- dmitriid 7y ago
  Those UX complaints wouldn't exist if Google Accounts were as internally unified as you make them out to be. With a unified set of internal tools and APIs for teams to work with and make sure their product works. Meanwhile, it took YouTube more than ten years to be able to support not just the default user. BigQuery is 9 years this year, and can't support multiple users in the browser etc. etc. It gets worse than that. Because they are still kinda unified. You get blocked for whatever reason on YouTube? Oh. Say goodbye to the rest of Google properties: play store, your dev account etc.
lxgr 7y ago
Actually, compared to all of my other gripes with Google services, I've always found their account management to be pretty coherent and easy to understand lately. SSO on iOS across the browser and Google's native apps, and "sign in with Google" in 3rd party apps, works flawlessly for me. The only thing I'm missing is a "sign me out" button (per device or even on all devices) that actually works.
- dmitriid 7y ago
  As a person who uses at least two accounts (personal and work), and a third account on YouTube (I've had it since before Google Accounts), the number of Littles things that way consistently don't work is baffling. Well, you can see just one day's worth at the link :)

crazygringo 7y ago

Funny, I'm the exact opposite -- the only thing I'm interested in is storage, so I'm glad I don't have to pay for the rest. But the products you list all serve mostly dramatically different markets. I would assume they don't offer a bundle because the venn diagram here would actually be quite small. I don't think the main reason is internal politics or anti monopoly.

lxgr 7y ago

YouTube red already gives you access to everything music-related, last time I checked: It includes YouTube Music premium (which in turn apparently is the successor of Google Play Music). The branding is pretty messed up there (as usual for Google), but the service itself is actually decent, and if I wasn't already on Spotify I would seriously consider switching. 2€/$ more for ad-free YouTube would definitely be worth it. That actually outlines one problem I'd have with such an "everything Google" bundle: Very likely, I'd already be paying for one or more of the components of one of its competitors, and the deal would be much less attractive as a result.

gravypod 7y ago
That would be the "hook". You may have 1 to 3 of the things already included but the remaining things would get you to say "well..m overall it's less money than having both." It's like Apple products. I already have a chat app but if I have an iPhone iMessage is pretty amazing
- lxgr 7y ago
  That would work in getting me "hooked" only if the existing, 3rd party service is not ver sticky in some way. Spotify definitely is for me (integration with my home stereo, playlists shared with friends etc). It would definitely convince me to give the bundled product an honest chance that I otherwise wouldn't, I suppose.