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Let’s insulate ourselves from the delusional masses by forming coalitions
(Obviously) Since you are reading this you probably know what I’m getting at. People who are grounded in reality ( according to my definition of course) are rare and may often be lost among the sea of the deluded masses. So this post of mine is an attempt to gather people who are like-minded.( people who I deem to be grounded in reality through my own colored lens of the world). The idea is to form mutually beneficial alliances in this insane world. Right now this process of forming alliances is somewhat unplanned and subject to chance events(you meet/know someone reasonable at school, work etc.). I'm hoping to cast the net wide by leveraging the internet. As to what exactly should the alliance be, or what it hopes to achieve is something to be discussed (though I have some concrete preliminary thoughts).
How to start: Email me your core beliefs ( though I personally prefer a voice chat with on Skype, google hangouts etc.), especially the beliefs where you think you differ fundamentally from the vast majority of people. I will quiz you on various subjects ( and so can you) to see if our beliefs align. Overall my beliefs can be loosely labeled as: generally anarchist (i.e a live and let live approach), generally anti-authoritarian ( meaning I believe govt/authorities do not protect your interests), largely capitalist( i.e vehemently opposed to coercive co-operation, put forth by typical socialism) etc. Perhaps at the bare minimum we have to share a meta belief that it is necessary to reach out and cooperate with other like minded individuals as it is virtually impossible to 'de-delude' the idiotic masses though arguments/dialogs etc. My email address can be found on my profile. In my profile you will also find a link to some webpages that outline my beliefs.
After this step, if we think our beliefs align, I will add you to an an online forum ( zero people as of now) , where you can interact with other people that I will be screening.
Caveats:
-It often takes a very long time ( months to years) to form mutually beneficial alliances. ( more so when individuals are geographically isolated from each other.) This is not a quick fix for your immediate problems, or for people without perseverance.
-The online forum is not to rant against the world, or a place to discuss your core beliefs. This is more of a place for doers not ivory tower thinkers.
Side note: It’s really hard to for me to believe that someone else is not doing this ( i.e what I’m attempting in this post) already somewhere. Let me know if you are aware of similar efforts, I would be eager to join.
- hilbert42 7y agoI agree with you and your idea makes much sense. I've been thinking about how beneficial alliances could be implemented in a number of fields for some years and have wondered why it hasn't happened on a big scale before this. That said, I would love to chat, form alliances etc. with you and others but I would not do it on Skype or on any Google platform/medium and or Facebook etc. for the very reasons that you are talking about. For starters, I no longer use Skype and I don't even have a Google account let alone use any of their services. Communications would have to be on Tox or some other peer-to-peer communications system that cannot be corrupted by these new owners of the internet. Using any of their services would only aid and abet the problems we're having or trying to solve. In my opinion an independent communications framework must be prerequisite and in place before any proper dialog can take place. Incidentally, I'm one of those people who use rooted smartphones without Google Play Services or any other Google service installed; that's to say I practice what I preach.
- dennis_jeeves 7y ago>I've been thinking about how beneficial alliances could be implemented in a number of fields for some years and have wondered why it hasn't happened on a big scale before this. Well I think there are a number of factors at play here. For one, most reasonable ( and who are grounded in reality) people actually think they can have a dialog with people who are delusional. They do not recognize that low IQ is a formidable barrier. They confuse not having a dialog with being the hardline right-wing types. They confuse low IQ with merely being ignorant. Essentially they squander their efforts in trying to 'convince' ordinary people. ( not saying there is no value to it, after all that is what marketing is) As to why it has not happens on large scale - well consider my post for example - that also requires some thick skin to put it out there. >Communications would have to be on Tox or some other peer-to-peer communications system that cannot be corrupted by these new owners of the internet. Ok, give me links and ids. I've never used Tox( Ofcourse I will do a search for Tox right after I type this post this message) >Using any of their services would only aid and abet the problems we're having or trying to solve. In my opinion an independent communications framework must be prerequisite and in place before any proper dialog can take place. Agreed.