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> "We are confident the Supreme Court will ... reject Google’s continuing efforts to avoid responsibility for copying Oracle’s innovations." Serious question:
by byuu 7y ago
> "We are confident the Supreme Court will ... reject Google’s continuing efforts to avoid responsibility for copying Oracle’s innovations."
Serious question: which part of Oracle buying Java from Sun was innovative?
- Spivak 7y agoI feel like that’s being super rude to the devs at Oracle that have been constantly innovating and improving the language. Java has changed a lot in the last 9 years. Oracle’s upcoming design of continuations I think is genuinely novel and will inspire a lot of other languages’ implementations.
- byuu 7y agoSorry if it wasn't phrased well, but that's what I was meaning by it being a serious question: does this lawsuit cover code written by Oracle engineers? It's my understanding the lawsuit was based on code developed by Sun, given they announced the lawsuit almost immediately after acquiring them in 2010, so it seems disingenuous to claim this is about their innovations, rather than Sun's. It feels equally rude to those Sun engineers to act as if Java in 2010 was their innovation. Buying something makes it your property, but not your creation. Whatever Oracle contributed after the acquisition, certainly would count as their innovations, but that was not the original basis for this lawsuit.
- hannasanarion 7y agoThe lawsuit was filed less than a month after the purchase went through. Oracle's engineers hadn't touched Java before their lawyers started attacking Google.
- Stupulous 7y agoI imagine the correct read is 'the innovations belonging to oracle', rather than 'the innovations performed by oracle'.
- byuu 7y agoThat makes more sense, thank you.