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This is straight up lifted from this demo - https://codepen.io/jakealbaugh/pen/qNrZyw https://codepen.io/jakealbaugh/pen/qNrZyw (previous HN convo - https://new

This is straight up lifted from this demo - https://codepen.io/jakealbaugh/pen/qNrZyw https://codepen.io/jakealbaugh/pen/qNrZyw (previous HN convo - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13273901 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13273901) Actually, this whole site is pretty strange. Lots of code and open source projects just kinda copied into an app library.

master-litty 7y ago
The website claims it's a monetization method for projects: https://www.outpan.com/developers https://www.outpan.com/developers Not trying to be overly cynical, but I don't know how true that is. It's still possible this was lifted without the creator's consent.
- jacquesm 7y ago
  If you click on the 'i' at the bottom right it shows this dialogue: "Musical Chord Progression Arpeggiator by LetsPlayAGame A quick way to sketch out musical chord progressions. Copyright (c) 2019 by Jake Albaugh Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE." So that looks to be mostly in the clear, but it would be nice to know if the uploader really is the creator.
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capableweb 7y ago
This explains it: > Developers Earn Money On Outpan! > How It Works > Once you choose to monetize your apps we'll take care of everything. Outpan will use sophisticated ads with optimized placements on your apps to autmatically generate revenue for you. From https://www.outpan.com/developers https://www.outpan.com/developers So basically this is monetization spam
ent101 7y ago
I'm a co-creator of Outpan. You are correct that there are lots of open source projects on Outpan, because we offer financial incentives for people to host apps on Outpan (the incentive is similar to Youtube). That said, there are also many proprietary apps and games on Outpan too and if an app is posted by someone who doesn't have the rights to do so, it is removed and the user is banned; then again with open source, as long as the license is valid and the terms followed properly, we can't really remove them. In the case of this particular app, it was under MIT license as mentioned in the about section. I understand that the 'About' section of the app may not be super clear causing confusion, we'll try to make it more visible.
- jacquesm 7y ago
  That very elegantly sidesteps the question: is this app uploaded by you or by the original author or by someone else entirely?
  - ent101 7y ago
    It was uploaded by someone else entirely, but we did check to make sure the license is valid.
    - jacquesm 7y ago
      Don't you find it odd - to say the least - that you would offer to financially reward someone who did not author the project?
      - ent101 7y ago
        Not really, since the original software is released under an open source license, in this case the MIT license which allows for monetization as long as the terms are followed. If the poster hadn't followed the terms we wouldn't be ok with it. This is common on mobile app stores too: for example there are many variations of the ZXing barcode app which all follow the terms of the open source license, some are even paid apps. Another example would be cloud services offering commercial products based on mysql, redis, elastic...

master-litty 7y ago

The website claims it's a monetization method for projects: https://www.outpan.com/developers https://www.outpan.com/developers Not trying to be overly cynical, but I don't know how true that is. It's still possible this was lifted without the creator's consent.

jacquesm 7y ago
If you click on the 'i' at the bottom right it shows this dialogue: "Musical Chord Progression Arpeggiator by LetsPlayAGame A quick way to sketch out musical chord progressions. Copyright (c) 2019 by Jake Albaugh Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE." So that looks to be mostly in the clear, but it would be nice to know if the uploader really is the creator.
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capableweb 7y ago

This explains it: > Developers Earn Money On Outpan! > How It Works > Once you choose to monetize your apps we'll take care of everything. Outpan will use sophisticated ads with optimized placements on your apps to autmatically generate revenue for you. From https://www.outpan.com/developers https://www.outpan.com/developers So basically this is monetization spam

ent101 7y ago

I'm a co-creator of Outpan. You are correct that there are lots of open source projects on Outpan, because we offer financial incentives for people to host apps on Outpan (the incentive is similar to Youtube). That said, there are also many proprietary apps and games on Outpan too and if an app is posted by someone who doesn't have the rights to do so, it is removed and the user is banned; then again with open source, as long as the license is valid and the terms followed properly, we can't really remove them. In the case of this particular app, it was under MIT license as mentioned in the about section. I understand that the 'About' section of the app may not be super clear causing confusion, we'll try to make it more visible.

jacquesm 7y ago
That very elegantly sidesteps the question: is this app uploaded by you or by the original author or by someone else entirely?
- ent101 7y ago
  It was uploaded by someone else entirely, but we did check to make sure the license is valid.
  - jacquesm 7y ago
    Don't you find it odd - to say the least - that you would offer to financially reward someone who did not author the project?
    - ent101 7y ago
      Not really, since the original software is released under an open source license, in this case the MIT license which allows for monetization as long as the terms are followed. If the poster hadn't followed the terms we wouldn't be ok with it. This is common on mobile app stores too: for example there are many variations of the ZXing barcode app which all follow the terms of the open source license, some are even paid apps. Another example would be cloud services offering commercial products based on mysql, redis, elastic...