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What about Aether : https://getaether.net/ https://getaether.net/?

by weavie 7y ago

paulddraper 7y ago
That seems perfect.
rolleiflex 7y ago
Ah, somebody posted it before I could. :) (Disclosure: I’m the creator of Aether, happy to answer any questions)
- mirimir 7y ago
  It sounds like just what I want. But I use VPNs. So I'd need to get a mapped port. What port does Aether want? Edit: Also, can I just install from source?
  - rolleiflex 7y ago
    It will get whatever it can. You also don’t need a mapped port, Aether can punch holes through firewalls via reverse-opens. (Though having a port open will significantly increase your connection speed and frequency.) You can look at the port it chooses through netstat, it does not have a fixed port. However, once it gets a working one, it won’t change it from then on so you can map that port. Edit: you can, but it having an Electron shell for UI (the actual app is Go) makes the build process somewhat complicated. It’s on GitHub though, feel free to take a look at the makefile and give it a shot.
    - mirimir 7y ago
      Thanks. I'll use an Ubuntu VM.
- unityByFreedom 7y ago
  How do you install it on linux? I'm getting the error, error: cannot find signatures with metadata for snap "Aether-2.0.0-dev.14+1909192130.00bf3c3.snap" SO [1] suggests this can be forced with `sudo snap install --dangerous` but that doesn't sound right. [1] https://askubuntu.com/questions/822765/snap-install-failure-error-cannot-find-signatures-with-metadata-for-snap https://askubuntu.com/questions/822765/snap-install-failure-...
  - rolleiflex 7y ago
    Yep, the flag is right. Unfortunately the way snap is designed is that they really don’t want you to distribute binaries outside their special snap store, to the point that if you try, they try to scare your users off by naming ‘install outside snap store’ flag as ‘--dangerous’.
    - unityByFreedom 7y ago
      Interesting, okay. I like your stance on moderation transparency. At this point I'm not sure how many people recognize how important that is.
      - rolleiflex 7y ago
        Moderation transparency is the building block to what comes next: mod elections. That’s the one piece still in the works, after that is done, I’m going to consider it stable.
    - ptman 7y ago
      Can you consider flatpak instead or in addition to canonical's snap? or maybe just a .tar.gz
      - rolleiflex 7y ago
        When I was first considering the Linux packaging question, I did evaluate AppImage, Flatpak, Snap and plain old tar.gz, with AppImage being my favourite. Unfortunately they are not equally polished and AppImage flat out did not work in a consistent manner across multiple Linux variants. Between the rest, tar.gz was ok, but there are a lot of people who don’t know what to do with it. Between Flatpak and Snap, Snap was the vastly more polished experience for the end user and for me, so I bit the bullet on their non-ideal ‘we want to be an Apple App Store clone’ way of working and went with Snap.
mcstafford 7y ago
> Windows 7 or higher https://getaether.net/download/ https://getaether.net/download/ That does cover much of the market... but leaves out Linux, MacOS, and mobile.
- thekyle 7y ago
  I visited that page from Manjaro and it says it supports any Linux distro with Snap support (so most).
- munificent 7y ago
  On my browser it says "Download for Mac", so presumably you get a link specific to your current OS.
unityByFreedom 7y ago
I just tried this. It's got some cool concepts (moderation transparency, commitment to privacy) but I'm not sure it will become as popular as HN/reddit because it isn't a website. You won't stumble across it in a google search. It's been around for 5 years and the forums don't have much activity.

What about Aether : https://getaether.net/ https://getaether.net/?

by weavie 7y ago

What about Aether : https://getaether.net/ https://getaether.net/?

paulddraper 7y ago

That seems perfect.

rolleiflex 7y ago

Ah, somebody posted it before I could. :) (Disclosure: I’m the creator of Aether, happy to answer any questions)

mirimir 7y ago
It sounds like just what I want. But I use VPNs. So I'd need to get a mapped port. What port does Aether want? Edit: Also, can I just install from source?
- rolleiflex 7y ago
  It will get whatever it can. You also don’t need a mapped port, Aether can punch holes through firewalls via reverse-opens. (Though having a port open will significantly increase your connection speed and frequency.) You can look at the port it chooses through netstat, it does not have a fixed port. However, once it gets a working one, it won’t change it from then on so you can map that port. Edit: you can, but it having an Electron shell for UI (the actual app is Go) makes the build process somewhat complicated. It’s on GitHub though, feel free to take a look at the makefile and give it a shot.
  - mirimir 7y ago
    Thanks. I'll use an Ubuntu VM.
unityByFreedom 7y ago
How do you install it on linux? I'm getting the error, error: cannot find signatures with metadata for snap "Aether-2.0.0-dev.14+1909192130.00bf3c3.snap" SO [1] suggests this can be forced with `sudo snap install --dangerous` but that doesn't sound right. [1] https://askubuntu.com/questions/822765/snap-install-failure-error-cannot-find-signatures-with-metadata-for-snap https://askubuntu.com/questions/822765/snap-install-failure-...
- rolleiflex 7y ago
  Yep, the flag is right. Unfortunately the way snap is designed is that they really don’t want you to distribute binaries outside their special snap store, to the point that if you try, they try to scare your users off by naming ‘install outside snap store’ flag as ‘--dangerous’.
  - unityByFreedom 7y ago
    Interesting, okay. I like your stance on moderation transparency. At this point I'm not sure how many people recognize how important that is.
    - rolleiflex 7y ago
      Moderation transparency is the building block to what comes next: mod elections. That’s the one piece still in the works, after that is done, I’m going to consider it stable.
  - ptman 7y ago
    Can you consider flatpak instead or in addition to canonical's snap? or maybe just a .tar.gz
    - rolleiflex 7y ago
      When I was first considering the Linux packaging question, I did evaluate AppImage, Flatpak, Snap and plain old tar.gz, with AppImage being my favourite. Unfortunately they are not equally polished and AppImage flat out did not work in a consistent manner across multiple Linux variants. Between the rest, tar.gz was ok, but there are a lot of people who don’t know what to do with it. Between Flatpak and Snap, Snap was the vastly more polished experience for the end user and for me, so I bit the bullet on their non-ideal ‘we want to be an Apple App Store clone’ way of working and went with Snap.

mcstafford 7y ago

> Windows 7 or higher https://getaether.net/download/ https://getaether.net/download/ That does cover much of the market... but leaves out Linux, MacOS, and mobile.

thekyle 7y ago
I visited that page from Manjaro and it says it supports any Linux distro with Snap support (so most).
munificent 7y ago
On my browser it says "Download for Mac", so presumably you get a link specific to your current OS.

unityByFreedom 7y ago

I just tried this. It's got some cool concepts (moderation transparency, commitment to privacy) but I'm not sure it will become as popular as HN/reddit because it isn't a website. You won't stumble across it in a google search. It's been around for 5 years and the forums don't have much activity.