Ha! I co-lead these efforts, and what I will say is that we try not to "lead the witness" here. :) So customers choose Kubernetes, and then we help them, but we

Ha! I co-lead these efforts, and what I will say is that we try not to "lead the witness" here. :) So customers choose Kubernetes, and then we help them, but we don't help them to choose Kubernetes, so to speak.