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So, the executives stopped attending and then the employers stopped attending as well. what a shocking correlation.

m0zg 7y ago
More likely: employees were attending too much for the reasons inconvenient to the executives. As an ex-Googler: this is the surest indication yet that Google is in deep trouble. TGIF would be canceled from time to time before when the execs suspected things would get confrontational and employees wouldn't like even remotely honest answers. But to cancel them basically permanently is going to blow up in Sundar's face. The ongoing communication channel, as difficult as it might be politically for both sides, is an integral (and very beneficial) part of Google culture. Or, _was_, at this point.
- arkitaip 7y ago
  What might happen is the rise of an informal communications channel managed by employees that Google executives cannot direct let alone cancel. That's far worse in a way.
  - m0zg 7y ago
    Communication implies two sides. If one is not willing to listen, what's more likely to happen is instead of communication channel an echo chamber will form and without the avenue to vent frustrations the rhetoric will get more and more extreme as people assume the worst, often incorrectly.
  - mbo 7y ago
    A communications channel controlled by the workers and not the managerial structure? This is a truly tragic development.
    - m0zg 7y ago
      The issue of "control" is pretty peripheral to this conversation. TGIF was a fixture in the company culture and as such nobody really "controlled" it. It was just expected that it'd happen every week, you'd go grab a beer, and watch the execs answer the top voted Dory questions they'd rather avoid, at least from time to time. That was a crucial feedback mechanism which is now at least reduced if not gone entirely. This will make the system (Google) less stable.
dredmorbius 7y ago
s/employers/employees/ ?
- pixiemaster 7y ago
  yes

m0zg 7y ago

More likely: employees were attending too much for the reasons inconvenient to the executives. As an ex-Googler: this is the surest indication yet that Google is in deep trouble. TGIF would be canceled from time to time before when the execs suspected things would get confrontational and employees wouldn't like even remotely honest answers. But to cancel them basically permanently is going to blow up in Sundar's face. The ongoing communication channel, as difficult as it might be politically for both sides, is an integral (and very beneficial) part of Google culture. Or, _was_, at this point.

arkitaip 7y ago
What might happen is the rise of an informal communications channel managed by employees that Google executives cannot direct let alone cancel. That's far worse in a way.
- m0zg 7y ago
  Communication implies two sides. If one is not willing to listen, what's more likely to happen is instead of communication channel an echo chamber will form and without the avenue to vent frustrations the rhetoric will get more and more extreme as people assume the worst, often incorrectly.
- mbo 7y ago
  A communications channel controlled by the workers and not the managerial structure? This is a truly tragic development.
  - m0zg 7y ago
    The issue of "control" is pretty peripheral to this conversation. TGIF was a fixture in the company culture and as such nobody really "controlled" it. It was just expected that it'd happen every week, you'd go grab a beer, and watch the execs answer the top voted Dory questions they'd rather avoid, at least from time to time. That was a crucial feedback mechanism which is now at least reduced if not gone entirely. This will make the system (Google) less stable.

dredmorbius 7y ago

s/employers/employees/ ?

pixiemaster 7y ago
yes