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It was only 8 days ago that I mentioned what was missing for now with AMD... And why you would still buy Intel. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21471023 h
by NicoJuicy 7y ago
It was only 8 days ago that I mentioned what was missing for now with AMD... And why you would still buy Intel.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21471023 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21471023
> I think why you want to buy a Intel now is:
- Laptop ( battery life is better on Intel CPU's), but AMD has this covered next Q.
- Intel NUC ( it's very practical )
- For Single core optimized applications ( eg. Some games) when you don't care about the total price at all. Intel's one core performance was better and support in games is lacking for a lot of cores. I think next Ryzen will handle this.
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What has changed in those 8 days:
- Intel is doing security patches. Probably AMD will lead in single core performance.
And there are AMD NUC's now, with up to 64 gb. Memory.
This is absolutely nuts. I have never seen a hardware company execute in such a rapid succession with such great results. And have never seen this bad luck at a competitor.
It's also the first product I can buy, since I'm not looking for a replacement of my laptop/desktop currently. I was searching for a decent NUC for the last 2 months ( as diy docker host).
Well done AMD. Well done.
- tracker1 7y agoIt's definitely cool.. though I do think an ITX build may make more sense unless you're actually mounting the NUC to something, since it's much lower performance, and the cost does feel a bit over-priced. Very cool all the same. Aside, if you're doing a docker host, without doing kubernetes, take a look at dokku, definitely a favorite... `git push deploy` with a Dockerfile in the project root, for most of my one-off projects.
- NicoJuicy 7y agoI mentioned 150-700€ range 9 days ago, so i totally agree that i'd like some cheaper variants ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21463162 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21463162 ) Thanks for Dokku, had it already starred on Github, but didn't remember it ;) Will definately try it out! I also have a 8x RPi 4 cluster, to learn Kubernetes. The AMD NUC would be a standalone Docker host though. Microservices in dot net core .... and experimentation :p
- tracker1 7y agoYeah, dokku has been great for smaller/personal things, have a $15 droplet in DO configured. The lets-encrypt plugin is great and pretty straight forward. Easy-peasy deployments. Been using Docker with .Net Core (and MS SQL Linux in Docker) for dev/testing for close over a year now, really nice for the most part. Though I still prefer Node over .Net Core. Next project will finally let me use it server-side (outside ci/cd orchestration).
- NicoJuicy 7y agoWe're in the same boat, loving cqrs and Events ( domain/Integration) right now. Really underestimated it "it's the same as DDD, but just split up" was my previous opinion
- pkaye 7y agoI like the NUC form factor since I can mount it behind my monitor. Makes for a clean desktop.
- okasaki 7y agoYou can mount some ITX cases.
- yyyk 7y agoIt's a good first effort, but I'd still give Intel the lead for now: * No Thunderbolt (so forget about extending with eGPU) or even Type C. * No HDMI. * I wonder about the cooling. 90W is close to the high end in this form factor. Have had cases where older i7 NUCs shut down when the temp got too high. Did they get it right first time with AMD? On the plus side, it comes with 2 NICs!
- derision 7y agoWhat are the use cases for 2 NICs?
- skazazes 7y agoFailover for one, you can also bond the NICs to increase bandwidth to devices with faster network access, or other similar boxes with multiple NICs bonded
- mutagen 7y agoBeefy firewall is the first that comes to mind.
- yyyk 7y agoBuild your own firewall.
- antoinealb 7y agoUsing it as a router / NAT / firewall comes to my mind.
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- skazazes 7y agoGiven the I/O i think its clear the intended market is as an off the shelf digital signage box, but the dual NICs are a feature I hope makes it into any future consumer oriented Zen based NUC. That being said I see no reason to ignore these if planning a homelab/micro compute cluster (chick-fil-a uses NUCs at the edge) besides perhaps the lower-ish spec CPUs.
- i2shar 7y agoWhere did you read about the 64G option? The ones in the post max out at 32G.
- lamw 7y agoI'm curious as well. Afaik, 32GB has been the documented max for both recent Ryzen Embedded as well as Intel NUC. Having said that, the Intel NUC (6th-8th) Gen can take advantage of 2 x 32GB SO-DIMM and I believe, I may have been the first to at least confirm this publicly [1]. I also recently did the same for an AMD M1000V system which I had shared [2] and will posting a blog post soon with more details on the unit which is similiar to the SimplyNUC Sequoia system. [1] - https://www.virtuallyghetto.com/2019/03/64gb-memory-on-the-intel-nucs.html https://www.virtuallyghetto.com/2019/03/64gb-memory-on-the-i... [2] - https://twitter.com/lamw/status/1194851757261611008 https://twitter.com/lamw/status/1194851757261611008
- walrus01 7y agoThere will soon be a plethora of Taiwanese motherboard manufacturers selling NUC-sized things based on Ryzen instead of core i5/i7 CPUs. I've already seen some. Take a look on Newegg.
- panpanna 7y agoFor the record, almost all big/respectable motherboard companies are also Taiwanese. So basically, we are about to see some top quality ASUS AMD NUCs in a few months.