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It written right ther: > Terminations and Suspensions by YouTube for Cause > YouTube may suspend or terminate your access, your Google account, or your Google

It written right ther: > Terminations and Suspensions by YouTube for Cause > YouTube may suspend or terminate your access, your Google account, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service The question is why we still don't believe it even when it's written in black and white?

ekianjo 7y ago
What is there to terminate if you browse Youtube without signing in?
- desdiv 7y ago
  When regular users visit youtube.com, they get a page with some videos on it. Regardless of whether they're logged in or not, there are videos there. Banned users visiting youtube.com will just get a text page[0] with zero video content. Google will use all the dirty tracking tricks to make sure that banned users remain banned even when their IP or device changes. [0] https://i.imgur.com/qTTGhhG.png https://i.imgur.com/qTTGhhG.png
  - thedaemon 7y ago
    Please, do you know how to get banned from Google? I'd love to not be tracked by them anymore.
    - hombre_fatal 7y ago
      Open an Adsense account and click your own ads. Though I'd think these days it just bans you from the Adsense program.
    - thedaemon 7y ago
      Why am I getting down voted for asking an honest question?
    - jobigoud 7y ago
      Didn't he just described that they were in fact heavily tracking you in order to make sure you didn't see the content?
  - trickstra 7y ago
    Incognito window, different browser, clear cookies... any of these will make you look like a new user to youtube. Just don't sign in of course.
    - kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
      I stopped signing in when they broke Gmail on Firefox. Now I just use Chromium as my mail browser and everything else is on my secure browser.
- rchaud 7y ago
  It may not apply to this particular implementation, but users who've downloaded alternative YT clients (which offer ad-free experiences, or playback while the screen is off) an Android devices, may have their Google account flagged, even if the apps were sideloaded.
  - ekianjo 7y ago
    I admit having never heard or encountered that, so do you have any kind of evidence to support the claim?
    - rchaud 7y ago
      The new terms of service go into effect on December 10th, so I wouldn't expect there to be any reports before then.
- kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
  I block doubleclick and randomly get a degraded YouTube page with no content outside the video box rendered. It also goobers up the browser history so you can't go to previous videos.
  - beagle3 7y ago
    That's because you are randomizing your user agent, not because of the doubleclick ban. (source: had some problem, solved it by emitting a consistent but fake user agent to youtube. It sniffs UA, against all recommendations and common sense)
- ZoomZoomZoom 7y ago
  Your accounts? As if they don't know who you are when you're not signed in.
  - ekianjo 7y ago
    Well, if you can imagine that there is a world where people can use the same device in the same home to access videos (ever heard of families?), surely you can imagine that Google would not terminate all accounts used on that device because they have no clue who is watching what when they are not logged in.
    - pkalinowski 7y ago
      I'm pretty sure they wouldn't care and ban the device
    - ZoomZoomZoom 7y ago
      I can imagine it would. My experience tells me it's not out of the question. With Google it's improbable at the moment, but it happened to me (someone got nasty under my ISP's CGNAT) with the other service which will remain unnamed.

ekianjo 7y ago

What is there to terminate if you browse Youtube without signing in?

desdiv 7y ago
When regular users visit youtube.com, they get a page with some videos on it. Regardless of whether they're logged in or not, there are videos there. Banned users visiting youtube.com will just get a text page[0] with zero video content. Google will use all the dirty tracking tricks to make sure that banned users remain banned even when their IP or device changes. [0] https://i.imgur.com/qTTGhhG.png https://i.imgur.com/qTTGhhG.png
- thedaemon 7y ago
  Please, do you know how to get banned from Google? I'd love to not be tracked by them anymore.
  - hombre_fatal 7y ago
    Open an Adsense account and click your own ads. Though I'd think these days it just bans you from the Adsense program.
  - thedaemon 7y ago
    Why am I getting down voted for asking an honest question?
  - jobigoud 7y ago
    Didn't he just described that they were in fact heavily tracking you in order to make sure you didn't see the content?
- trickstra 7y ago
  Incognito window, different browser, clear cookies... any of these will make you look like a new user to youtube. Just don't sign in of course.
  - kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
    I stopped signing in when they broke Gmail on Firefox. Now I just use Chromium as my mail browser and everything else is on my secure browser.
rchaud 7y ago
It may not apply to this particular implementation, but users who've downloaded alternative YT clients (which offer ad-free experiences, or playback while the screen is off) an Android devices, may have their Google account flagged, even if the apps were sideloaded.
- ekianjo 7y ago
  I admit having never heard or encountered that, so do you have any kind of evidence to support the claim?
  - rchaud 7y ago
    The new terms of service go into effect on December 10th, so I wouldn't expect there to be any reports before then.
kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
I block doubleclick and randomly get a degraded YouTube page with no content outside the video box rendered. It also goobers up the browser history so you can't go to previous videos.
- beagle3 7y ago
  That's because you are randomizing your user agent, not because of the doubleclick ban. (source: had some problem, solved it by emitting a consistent but fake user agent to youtube. It sniffs UA, against all recommendations and common sense)
ZoomZoomZoom 7y ago
Your accounts? As if they don't know who you are when you're not signed in.
- ekianjo 7y ago
  Well, if you can imagine that there is a world where people can use the same device in the same home to access videos (ever heard of families?), surely you can imagine that Google would not terminate all accounts used on that device because they have no clue who is watching what when they are not logged in.
  - pkalinowski 7y ago
    I'm pretty sure they wouldn't care and ban the device
  - ZoomZoomZoom 7y ago
    I can imagine it would. My experience tells me it's not out of the question. With Google it's improbable at the moment, but it happened to me (someone got nasty under my ISP's CGNAT) with the other service which will remain unnamed.