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We seem to be going from pirated movies and music to pirated youtube. Not really sure how I feel about that.

t0astbread 7y ago
Does it hurt artists really? I imagine a lot of YouTube users use ad blockers anyways, so a lot of artists have switched to in-video paid promotions.
- cameronbrown 7y ago
  Absolutely. Source: I watch YouTube. In all seriousness you hear creators talking about collapsing revenues due to adblockers all the time. Bigger ones survive with tools like Patreon but if you're new with only a small fan base? (<10k) It's not viable anymore. The good thing about YT was always being able to take that passion full time. Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too.
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  - MrGilbert 7y ago
    > Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too. So do devs, which is quite often neglected when talking about open source. It often goes along the "well, then do it in your spare time"-line. Maybe there is a huge gap between expectations and what we, as people, can actually do. There are a few who can make a living off of their channel, but you shouldn't start a youtube channel today, expecting to make some "big money". The more traditional way would be to start small, gain more and more visibility over time, and at some point companies might be interested in "in-video" promotions, like LTT does.
    - eeZah7Ux 7y ago
      > "well, then do it in your spare time" Or, get paid to do FLOSS. (paid, not donations)
  - Fnoord 7y ago
    Yeah, blame the adblockers. Google decided to not pay anything to smaller fish anymore. > Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too. Start out as a hobby, then maybe it'll turn into a job. You just need more patience and less expectations instead of the instant gratification. Golden days are long over.
- blntechie 7y ago
  In-video paid promotions are strictly for creators with hundreds of thousands and millions of subscribers. Small to medium creators still rely on algorithmic pre-roll and interstitial ads.
- izacus 7y ago
  How exactly does that pay for YouTubes storage, bandwidth and transcoding costs? How does that pay for music artists which request that their music is paid for when people are listening to it in background? Why the wierd double standard with YT?
  - icebraining 7y ago
    Double standard compared to what?
    - izacus 7y ago
      Compared to any other service or product mentioned on this site.
      - icebraining 7y ago
        Do you think people only use adblockers on YouTube? Plenty of people have advocated their use for many other sites and services here.
hombre_fatal 7y ago
The HN zeitgeist answers: - Artists need to find a new business model then. - Artists should be hobbyists. - If it's on the internet, it's mine for the taking.

Does it hurt artists really? I imagine a lot of YouTube users use ad blockers anyways, so a lot of artists have switched to in-video paid promotions.

cameronbrown 7y ago
Absolutely. Source: I watch YouTube. In all seriousness you hear creators talking about collapsing revenues due to adblockers all the time. Bigger ones survive with tools like Patreon but if you're new with only a small fan base? (<10k) It's not viable anymore. The good thing about YT was always being able to take that passion full time. Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too.
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- MrGilbert 7y ago
  > Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too. So do devs, which is quite often neglected when talking about open source. It often goes along the "well, then do it in your spare time"-line. Maybe there is a huge gap between expectations and what we, as people, can actually do. There are a few who can make a living off of their channel, but you shouldn't start a youtube channel today, expecting to make some "big money". The more traditional way would be to start small, gain more and more visibility over time, and at some point companies might be interested in "in-video" promotions, like LTT does.
  - eeZah7Ux 7y ago
    > "well, then do it in your spare time" Or, get paid to do FLOSS. (paid, not donations)
- Fnoord 7y ago
  Yeah, blame the adblockers. Google decided to not pay anything to smaller fish anymore. > Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too. Start out as a hobby, then maybe it'll turn into a job. You just need more patience and less expectations instead of the instant gratification. Golden days are long over.
blntechie 7y ago
In-video paid promotions are strictly for creators with hundreds of thousands and millions of subscribers. Small to medium creators still rely on algorithmic pre-roll and interstitial ads.
izacus 7y ago
How exactly does that pay for YouTubes storage, bandwidth and transcoding costs? How does that pay for music artists which request that their music is paid for when people are listening to it in background? Why the wierd double standard with YT?
- icebraining 7y ago
  Double standard compared to what?
  - izacus 7y ago
    Compared to any other service or product mentioned on this site.
    - icebraining 7y ago
      Do you think people only use adblockers on YouTube? Plenty of people have advocated their use for many other sites and services here.

hombre_fatal 7y ago

The HN zeitgeist answers: - Artists need to find a new business model then. - Artists should be hobbyists. - If it's on the internet, it's mine for the taking.