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Does the FBI even investigate this sort of thing internationally? Does anyone?

jbooth 16y ago
A bunch of people in the UK were arrested today as well. So, yes. Apparently.
piguy314 16y ago
I've been reading a great book on this very subject: http://www.amazon.com/Fatal-System-Error-Bringing-Internet/dp/1586487485 http://www.amazon.com/Fatal-System-Error-Bringing-Internet/d... My general impressions are that nobody likes working with the FBI because they don't share information, but the secret service and postal service fraud unit both work extensively with people overseas. Countries which are members of either the EU or NATO tend to cooperate extensively with cybercrime investigations however those outside of that group do not. Many cybercriminals reside in the eastern bloc (Eastern Europe, Russia, China) and are protected by entrenched political and organized crime interests (usually by both at the same time).
gloob 16y ago
Does anyone? Countries outside America do have law enforcement agencies for the most part, so yes.
- damoncali 16y ago
  I meant, does anyone investigate them end-to-end, and not just in their own country? I find it hard to believe that the FBI interacts well with law enforcement in, say, Poland.
  - runjake 16y ago
    Google "Interpol", they've been around a little while.
  - borism 16y ago
    I find it hard to believe that the FBI interacts well with law enforcement in, say, Poland. you might be disappointed. Law enforcement cooperates extensively throughout the World.
    - damoncali 16y ago
      Don't get me wrong. I'm all for laws. I'm just skeptical that they work really well across borders.
      - borism 16y ago
        Don't get me wrong. I don't :) I know it's hard to believe, but law enforcement of different countries indeed does cooperate really well, often even if these countries don't have very good diplomatic relationships. And it's not just Interpol/Europol.
  - forensic 16y ago
    well the RCMP and the FBI work together very closely, for one. An American FBI agent can get more done in Canada through RCMP connections than a rich and powerful Canadian can. RCMP is the Canadian FBI by the way.
    - fleitz 16y ago
      Yes, and vice versa, lets say the RCMP needs someone sent to Syria for 'questioning', then they'd phone the FBI and tip them off that such a person is coming to the US. And the FBI would promptly send them to Syria for 'questioning' of course also ignoring their citizenship and duty to deport people back to their country of citizenship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar
      - gizmomagico 16y ago
        It's a fucking disgusting world we live in.
  - pt 16y ago
    Interpol? http://www.interpol.int/public/icpo/default.asp http://www.interpol.int/public/icpo/default.asp
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Semiapies 16y ago
Yes and yes, actually. Though the FBI naturally focuses on international actions against US people and companies.
- keegangrayson 16y ago
  Fbi is domestic, cia is international.
  - Semiapies 16y ago
    The CIA is not a law-enforcement body and would not be involved. The FBI has offices in a number of countries: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/fbi.html http://moscow.usembassy.gov/fbi.html

A bunch of people in the UK were arrested today as well. So, yes. Apparently.

I've been reading a great book on this very subject: http://www.amazon.com/Fatal-System-Error-Bringing-Internet/dp/1586487485 http://www.amazon.com/Fatal-System-Error-Bringing-Internet/d... My general impressions are that nobody likes working with the FBI because they don't share information, but the secret service and postal service fraud unit both work extensively with people overseas. Countries which are members of either the EU or NATO tend to cooperate extensively with cybercrime investigations however those outside of that group do not. Many cybercriminals reside in the eastern bloc (Eastern Europe, Russia, China) and are protected by entrenched political and organized crime interests (usually by both at the same time).

gloob 16y ago

Does anyone? Countries outside America do have law enforcement agencies for the most part, so yes.

damoncali 16y ago
I meant, does anyone investigate them end-to-end, and not just in their own country? I find it hard to believe that the FBI interacts well with law enforcement in, say, Poland.
- runjake 16y ago
  Google "Interpol", they've been around a little while.
- borism 16y ago
  I find it hard to believe that the FBI interacts well with law enforcement in, say, Poland. you might be disappointed. Law enforcement cooperates extensively throughout the World.
  - damoncali 16y ago
    Don't get me wrong. I'm all for laws. I'm just skeptical that they work really well across borders.
    - borism 16y ago
      Don't get me wrong. I don't :) I know it's hard to believe, but law enforcement of different countries indeed does cooperate really well, often even if these countries don't have very good diplomatic relationships. And it's not just Interpol/Europol.
- forensic 16y ago
  well the RCMP and the FBI work together very closely, for one. An American FBI agent can get more done in Canada through RCMP connections than a rich and powerful Canadian can. RCMP is the Canadian FBI by the way.
  - fleitz 16y ago
    Yes, and vice versa, lets say the RCMP needs someone sent to Syria for 'questioning', then they'd phone the FBI and tip them off that such a person is coming to the US. And the FBI would promptly send them to Syria for 'questioning' of course also ignoring their citizenship and duty to deport people back to their country of citizenship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar
    - gizmomagico 16y ago
      It's a fucking disgusting world we live in.
- pt 16y ago
  Interpol? http://www.interpol.int/public/icpo/default.asp http://www.interpol.int/public/icpo/default.asp
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Semiapies 16y ago

Yes and yes, actually. Though the FBI naturally focuses on international actions against US people and companies.

keegangrayson 16y ago
Fbi is domestic, cia is international.
- Semiapies 16y ago
  The CIA is not a law-enforcement body and would not be involved. The FBI has offices in a number of countries: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/fbi.html http://moscow.usembassy.gov/fbi.html