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What's the justification for no-knock raids here?

• tptacek 16y ago
  The immense likelihood of attempts to quickly destroy evidence.
• kevingadd 16y ago
  They're DDOSing websites run by big corporations, so they're obviously terrorists, which means you need to arrest them at gunpoint early in the morning so that you can be sure they won't have time to detonate a suitcase nuke before you can cuff them and get them into the back of the cop car.
• gojomo 16y ago
  Only one of the reports suggests a door 'busted down'; is that nym known to give reliable, non-embellished testimony? (I can believe that some of the searches might be unnecessarily done that way, but also that there could be exaggeration in pseudonymous reports.)
• forensic 16y ago
  no-knocks pretty much don't need justification anymore The laws are so vague and the precedents are so sweeping when it comes to no-knock raids.
  • InclinedPlane 16y ago
    Yup. Sadly no-knock raids have become routine rather than extremely exceptional. It shouldn't be the case, and the fact that it is should be a screaming siren that we need to fix things.
• cagenut 16y ago
  Whole drive encryption. I've seen docu-drama's where they actually break in when they know the suspect has gotten up to go the the bathroom/kitchen so that he can't reboot the computer. Then, like all things with a shred of reasonableness too them, they become an awesome "check this box every single time" way of doing business for the guys who get their thrills kicking in doors.
  • w1ntermute 16y ago
    > I've seen docu-drama's where they actually break in when they know the suspect has gotten up to go the the bathroom/kitchen so that he can't reboot the computer. Any specific examples? I'm interested in watching them.
    • cagenut 16y ago
      sorry no, all I can say is watch a lot of msnbc/cnbc/discovery-channel at terrible odd hours or weekends, but thats just about the worst advice ever