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They might have great software - I don't know. But personally I absolutely refuse to use a paid option for a service of this type. There's just too much risk.

They might have great software - I don't know. But personally I absolutely refuse to use a paid option for a service of this type. There's just too much risk. What happens if my credit card expires and I forget to update/pay? Or I get hospitalized suddenly and there's a similar payment issue? Is my account just closed and everything deleted? Then there's the risk of me putting everything in there and them jacking up the price. I'd either have to eat it or manually migrate everything. There are other concerns as well. And I'm not saying I think they are dishonest. But when there are open source methods that are free and battle-tested for security, I see no reason to go with a paid option.

markdown 7y ago
> What happens if my credit card expires and I forget to update/pay? I paid for it once and then used it for years and years without updating. After a few years the browser extension stopped working (was no longer compatible with current browsers) so I decided to buy again. By this time they'd moved to a subscription system and I have no idea how it works. It used to be simple... there was an app, and if you stored the password file in Dropbox, you got cross platform support. But now the UX is terrible. I don't know where my passwords are stored, I don't know if the entire thing will stop working if I stop paying, etc. What a shame. I used to recommend it all the time but since the update there's no way I could recommend it to anyone I know who isn't a techie.
- NegativeLatency 7y ago
  There’s still a stand-alone app. Just upgraded a couple of weeks ago.
sedatk 7y ago
You can always backup your data and move to another manager if needed. Almost all of its competitors support importing from their format.
zaksoup 7y ago
This is a really easy question to answer. I duck-duck-went "1password what happens if I stop paying" and the first link was https://support.1password.com/membership-billing-policy/ https://support.1password.com/membership-billing-policy/ From the link: > Your data is yours. Even if you cancel your subscription and your account is frozen, you can still sign in to 1Password.com or in the apps to view and export your data.
- vbezhenar 7y ago
  I can confirm. I used it, then stopped paying. All by data is read-only accessible, even just with browser. In the end was more happy with KeePass as 1Password was too user-friendly for me and I wanted something more stupid for passwords.
  - turc1656 7y ago
    If you are already liking KeePass I highly recommending KeeWeb, which is what I'm using. It reads a KeePass database and the desktop app web app are great in my opinion. And everything is free. Web app also caches in the browser and syncs to Dropbox so everything can sync between mobile and desktop.
stevenwliao 7y ago
Do companies delete paid users' most important data for billing failures? I can't recall such a case. Still, if you're willing to handle the availability and security concerns yourself, going self-hosted could work.
gtf21 7y ago
There's a standalone app (if you're not on Linux) and you can sync via dropbox / wifi / rsync / whatever you like.
- turc1656 7y ago
  I basically do that - my core database is encrypted on Dropbox and I use a desktop app and web apps for mobile via KeeWeb which is free. KeeWeb on desktop also backs up locally in the event anything ever happens to my dropbox access, but Dropbox is the central sync point. The web app connects to Dropbox and since it's a web app there isn't even a need for the installation of an Android/iOS app. I just keep the webpage up at all times. The app is cached by design and doesn't send external connections.

markdown 7y ago

> What happens if my credit card expires and I forget to update/pay? I paid for it once and then used it for years and years without updating. After a few years the browser extension stopped working (was no longer compatible with current browsers) so I decided to buy again. By this time they'd moved to a subscription system and I have no idea how it works. It used to be simple... there was an app, and if you stored the password file in Dropbox, you got cross platform support. But now the UX is terrible. I don't know where my passwords are stored, I don't know if the entire thing will stop working if I stop paying, etc. What a shame. I used to recommend it all the time but since the update there's no way I could recommend it to anyone I know who isn't a techie.

NegativeLatency 7y ago
There’s still a stand-alone app. Just upgraded a couple of weeks ago.

sedatk 7y ago

You can always backup your data and move to another manager if needed. Almost all of its competitors support importing from their format.

zaksoup 7y ago

This is a really easy question to answer. I duck-duck-went "1password what happens if I stop paying" and the first link was https://support.1password.com/membership-billing-policy/ https://support.1password.com/membership-billing-policy/ From the link: > Your data is yours. Even if you cancel your subscription and your account is frozen, you can still sign in to 1Password.com or in the apps to view and export your data.

vbezhenar 7y ago
I can confirm. I used it, then stopped paying. All by data is read-only accessible, even just with browser. In the end was more happy with KeePass as 1Password was too user-friendly for me and I wanted something more stupid for passwords.
- turc1656 7y ago
  If you are already liking KeePass I highly recommending KeeWeb, which is what I'm using. It reads a KeePass database and the desktop app web app are great in my opinion. And everything is free. Web app also caches in the browser and syncs to Dropbox so everything can sync between mobile and desktop.

stevenwliao 7y ago

Do companies delete paid users' most important data for billing failures? I can't recall such a case. Still, if you're willing to handle the availability and security concerns yourself, going self-hosted could work.

gtf21 7y ago

There's a standalone app (if you're not on Linux) and you can sync via dropbox / wifi / rsync / whatever you like.

turc1656 7y ago
I basically do that - my core database is encrypted on Dropbox and I use a desktop app and web apps for mobile via KeeWeb which is free. KeeWeb on desktop also backs up locally in the event anything ever happens to my dropbox access, but Dropbox is the central sync point. The web app connects to Dropbox and since it's a web app there isn't even a need for the installation of an Android/iOS app. I just keep the webpage up at all times. The app is cached by design and doesn't send external connections.