3 ms·

> I think most users understand the concept of creating a file, putting stuff in it, and putting it on a file syncing service (or usb drive) Many do, many don

> I think most users understand the concept of creating a file, putting stuff in it, and putting it on a file syncing service (or usb drive) Many do, many don't. Even for those that do, there is a significant hassle in getting a file sharing service (gdrive, icloud, dropbox) etc onto every possible device they have. I mean, I'm with you in that I'm personally pretty skeptical of the cloud-based pw solution. But I can absolutely understand the story about a much simpler user-experience that it offers.

gruez 7y ago
>there is a significant hassle in getting a file sharing service (gdrive, icloud, dropbox) etc onto every possible device they have. What is this "significant hassle"? Surely it's not that much harder to install [sync app] + [password app] than it is to install [password app]? >Many do, many don't. I suspect the intersection between "people who don't know how to manipulate files" and "people who care enough about passwords and are willing to fork over $36/yr" isn't big.
- hnra 7y ago
  > What is this "significant hassle"? Surely it's not that much harder to install [sync app] + [password app] than it is to install [password app]? Or no app, just add the browser extension and you're done. Seems a lot easier to me than downloading two other apps, one I have no use for other than syncing the other one.
- ncallaway 7y ago
  > Surely it's not that much harder to install [sync app] + [password app] than it is to install [password app]? It's literally twice as much work. Often more, because I need the password to the sync app's service. Where's that stored? How many characters is it? Oh, it's a secure, 20-32 character password. What a pain to re-type it. Good thing it uses a ton of symbols which are a pain to type on my mobile keyboard. > I suspect the intersection between "people who don't know how to manipulate files" and "people who care enough about passwords and are willing to fork over $36/yr" isn't big. It's not "people who don't know how to manipulate files", it's "people who don't _like_ to manipulate files, and external services, and get them onto all of their devices". Further, I expect the proportion of the first circle is constant and relatively small (<10%). I expect the proportion of the second circle _was_ small, but is growing extremely rapidly.

gruez 7y ago

>there is a significant hassle in getting a file sharing service (gdrive, icloud, dropbox) etc onto every possible device they have. What is this "significant hassle"? Surely it's not that much harder to install [sync app] + [password app] than it is to install [password app]? >Many do, many don't. I suspect the intersection between "people who don't know how to manipulate files" and "people who care enough about passwords and are willing to fork over $36/yr" isn't big.

hnra 7y ago
> What is this "significant hassle"? Surely it's not that much harder to install [sync app] + [password app] than it is to install [password app]? Or no app, just add the browser extension and you're done. Seems a lot easier to me than downloading two other apps, one I have no use for other than syncing the other one.
ncallaway 7y ago
> Surely it's not that much harder to install [sync app] + [password app] than it is to install [password app]? It's literally twice as much work. Often more, because I need the password to the sync app's service. Where's that stored? How many characters is it? Oh, it's a secure, 20-32 character password. What a pain to re-type it. Good thing it uses a ton of symbols which are a pain to type on my mobile keyboard. > I suspect the intersection between "people who don't know how to manipulate files" and "people who care enough about passwords and are willing to fork over $36/yr" isn't big. It's not "people who don't know how to manipulate files", it's "people who don't _like_ to manipulate files, and external services, and get them onto all of their devices". Further, I expect the proportion of the first circle is constant and relatively small (<10%). I expect the proportion of the second circle _was_ small, but is growing extremely rapidly.