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If that's so, they're helping Make AMD Great Again.

by moonbug 7y ago

starpilot 7y ago
AMD was never great.
- wolf550e 7y ago
  Against the Pentium 4, AMD was amazing.
- rasz 7y ago
  AMD had three great moments before Ryzen. 1991. Am386DX-40 introduced at $200, quickly discounted to <$90 against Intels slower ~$200 386DX-33 and $258 486SX-20. With this one CPU AMD won the budget segment for a couple of years https://redhill.net.au/c/c-4.html#dx40 https://redhill.net.au/c/c-4.html#dx40 Intel replied by suing AMD, they lost the case. 2000. Duron/Athlon and first desktop 1GHz CPU. Intel replied by faking release of Pentium 3 1GHz, (only limited review samples, no stock shipped) followed by real release of 1.13GHz Pentium 3 dubbed the "Fastest x86 CPU in the world", except they crashed in users computers and resulted in expensive recall and delays https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/revisiting-intel,221-2.html https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/revisiting-intel,221-2.... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/08/28/intel_recalls_1_13ghz_pentium/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/08/28/intel_recalls_1_13g... 2003. AMD64, first desktop 64bit cpu starting at $218, half the price of comparable Pentium 4. Intel replied by directly bribing, intimidating and blackmailing distributors/retailers, resulting in biggest EU antitrust fine at the time of over $1.3 Billion. Intel hasnt paid a dime of this fine to this date! and keeps throwing lawyers at the problem and appealing. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/09/06/victory-intel-eu-court-orders-11bn-fine-re-examined/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/09/06/victory-in...
  - speedplane 7y ago
    > AMD had three great moments before Ryzen. AMD's current ascension can also be explained by the death of Moore's law. Moore's law is an exponential curve. Meaning, if you started behind someone else on the curve and increase on the same curve, over time, they will always get further and further ahead of you. You can never catch up. Assuming progress stops following an exponential, and starts looking more linear, with a reasonable (i.e., non-exponential) amount of investment, you can overtake someone who is ahead of you. This news may be great for AMD, but it does not bode well for everyone else.

If that's so, they're helping Make AMD Great Again.

starpilot 7y ago

AMD was never great.

wolf550e 7y ago
Against the Pentium 4, AMD was amazing.
rasz 7y ago
AMD had three great moments before Ryzen. 1991. Am386DX-40 introduced at $200, quickly discounted to <$90 against Intels slower ~$200 386DX-33 and $258 486SX-20. With this one CPU AMD won the budget segment for a couple of years https://redhill.net.au/c/c-4.html#dx40 https://redhill.net.au/c/c-4.html#dx40 Intel replied by suing AMD, they lost the case. 2000. Duron/Athlon and first desktop 1GHz CPU. Intel replied by faking release of Pentium 3 1GHz, (only limited review samples, no stock shipped) followed by real release of 1.13GHz Pentium 3 dubbed the "Fastest x86 CPU in the world", except they crashed in users computers and resulted in expensive recall and delays https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/revisiting-intel,221-2.html https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/revisiting-intel,221-2.... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/08/28/intel_recalls_1_13ghz_pentium/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/08/28/intel_recalls_1_13g... 2003. AMD64, first desktop 64bit cpu starting at $218, half the price of comparable Pentium 4. Intel replied by directly bribing, intimidating and blackmailing distributors/retailers, resulting in biggest EU antitrust fine at the time of over $1.3 Billion. Intel hasnt paid a dime of this fine to this date! and keeps throwing lawyers at the problem and appealing. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/09/06/victory-intel-eu-court-orders-11bn-fine-re-examined/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/09/06/victory-in...
- speedplane 7y ago
  > AMD had three great moments before Ryzen. AMD's current ascension can also be explained by the death of Moore's law. Moore's law is an exponential curve. Meaning, if you started behind someone else on the curve and increase on the same curve, over time, they will always get further and further ahead of you. You can never catch up. Assuming progress stops following an exponential, and starts looking more linear, with a reasonable (i.e., non-exponential) amount of investment, you can overtake someone who is ahead of you. This news may be great for AMD, but it does not bode well for everyone else.