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> Am I the only one who considers this a good thing? This company over the years has, multiple times, basically ripped the rug out from under its users (moving

by swozey 7y ago

> Am I the only one who considers this a good thing? This company over the years has, multiple times, basically ripped the rug out from under its users (moving to online vaults, hiding native app, switching from a single fee to monthly charge) so I really don't see it as a positive. From comments in here it seems like they'll be focusing on Enterprise. That just leads me to assume they'll listen to consumer feedback even less.

novok 7y ago
What do you mean native app? I use the native apps all the time and it’s a pretty prominent thing that you get redirect to when you press get started on their front page
- Dirlewanger 7y ago
  They make it incredibly difficult to still pay the one-time fee for the software vs. doing the monthly charge. Like, hiding it. They have threads on their support forum of users complaining how deceptive it is. It's clear they want your vault on their servers and you paying the monthly fee instead of using Dropbox and paying a one-time fee.
  - skinnymuch 7y ago
    Right. So that was one time they did a shift. And they slowly phased out the one time product which was a strategy they were employing from day one. They didn’t pull rug out from under customers more than once then.
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  - ThePowerOfFuet 7y ago
    They don't give a shit about your vault. They want your money every year instead of once-off.
  - novok 7y ago
    That isn't what the definition of a native app is. They still have native apps, they have effectively deprecated the dropbox sync / local vault features of the app. And single pay licences are going to go away soon.
skinnymuch 7y ago
Aren’t all your examples things that happened at the same time or basically because of one shift? The switch to being a SaaS? So that’s just one time really. The events may be spread out a bit, but it’s really just one event to me.
- streblo 7y ago
  You're correct that these changes all happened contiguously. The "multiple times" argument isn't very accurate.

by swozey 7y ago

novok 7y ago

What do you mean native app? I use the native apps all the time and it’s a pretty prominent thing that you get redirect to when you press get started on their front page

Dirlewanger 7y ago
They make it incredibly difficult to still pay the one-time fee for the software vs. doing the monthly charge. Like, hiding it. They have threads on their support forum of users complaining how deceptive it is. It's clear they want your vault on their servers and you paying the monthly fee instead of using Dropbox and paying a one-time fee.
- skinnymuch 7y ago
  Right. So that was one time they did a shift. And they slowly phased out the one time product which was a strategy they were employing from day one. They didn’t pull rug out from under customers more than once then.
  - deleted 7y ago
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- ThePowerOfFuet 7y ago
  They don't give a shit about your vault. They want your money every year instead of once-off.
- novok 7y ago
  That isn't what the definition of a native app is. They still have native apps, they have effectively deprecated the dropbox sync / local vault features of the app. And single pay licences are going to go away soon.

skinnymuch 7y ago

Aren’t all your examples things that happened at the same time or basically because of one shift? The switch to being a SaaS? So that’s just one time really. The events may be spread out a bit, but it’s really just one event to me.

streblo 7y ago
You're correct that these changes all happened contiguously. The "multiple times" argument isn't very accurate.