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I love the idea, being aware that long showers are detrimental to our planet and all! However, IMHO, there are things we could do that would impact energy savi

I love the idea, being aware that long showers are detrimental to our planet and all! However, IMHO, there are things we could do that would impact energy savings on a 100x scale compared to showering with a mist shower. First thing that comes to mind, those hundreds of big offices in every city, that keep their lights on, on every floor (!!), every single night.

icebraining 7y ago
Every city? Certainly not, I remember no such thing where I've lived. Why would they do that?!
- orliesaurus 7y ago
  You must be living/lived in a very energy conscious city - do you mind if I ask where do you live/lived that didn't have office lights running at night?
  - icebraining 7y ago
    Lisbon. There may be exceptions, but I can't think of any office building with more than just a few windows lit late at night. It's probably more due to cost-savings than environmental concerns, though. The offices I worked on in Brussels and Luxembourg also went dark, but I'm not sure if that was common throughout the city.
benatkin 7y ago
It would be better to cut energy use during peak time. In Phoenix during the sunmertime that's between 2pm and 8pm. https://srpnet.com/prices/home/tou.aspx https://srpnet.com/prices/home/tou.aspx
Cthulhu_ 7y ago
Whataboutism and power consumption is not equivalent to water consumption. That said, IDK what city you live in, but most offices I know have energy-efficient lighting (used to be TL, nowadays LED) and motion sensors. If you do want to make a "what about" point though, highlighting how consumers only use a relatively small percentage of power compared to companies - think any IT company with datacenters, large scale shipping, but also Bitcoin and co - and shaming individuals into stuff like using less water, going vegetarian or change their bulbs is putting the blame in the wrong direction.
- coldpie 7y ago
  > highlighting how consumers only use a relatively small percentage of power compared to companies - think ... large scale shipping It's actually not as lopsided as you think. Passenger vehicles in the US emit more carbon than all freight trucks, trains, ships and airplanes combined. Here is a good breakdown of the sources of emissions in the US from the EPA. It's very much worth a read. https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions#transportation https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emis...
- orliesaurus 7y ago
  Pretty much any big city I travelled to London, Seattle, San Francisco just to name a few...walk in the streets of the city by night and you will see what I mean. Sure, power efficient lighting is great and so are sensors but why are the lights on at night? Why are the motion-sensors that are so widespread (most offices you say?) not working to switch the lights off?

icebraining 7y ago

Every city? Certainly not, I remember no such thing where I've lived. Why would they do that?!

orliesaurus 7y ago
You must be living/lived in a very energy conscious city - do you mind if I ask where do you live/lived that didn't have office lights running at night?
- icebraining 7y ago
  Lisbon. There may be exceptions, but I can't think of any office building with more than just a few windows lit late at night. It's probably more due to cost-savings than environmental concerns, though. The offices I worked on in Brussels and Luxembourg also went dark, but I'm not sure if that was common throughout the city.

benatkin 7y ago

It would be better to cut energy use during peak time. In Phoenix during the sunmertime that's between 2pm and 8pm. https://srpnet.com/prices/home/tou.aspx https://srpnet.com/prices/home/tou.aspx

Cthulhu_ 7y ago

Whataboutism and power consumption is not equivalent to water consumption. That said, IDK what city you live in, but most offices I know have energy-efficient lighting (used to be TL, nowadays LED) and motion sensors. If you do want to make a "what about" point though, highlighting how consumers only use a relatively small percentage of power compared to companies - think any IT company with datacenters, large scale shipping, but also Bitcoin and co - and shaming individuals into stuff like using less water, going vegetarian or change their bulbs is putting the blame in the wrong direction.

coldpie 7y ago
> highlighting how consumers only use a relatively small percentage of power compared to companies - think ... large scale shipping It's actually not as lopsided as you think. Passenger vehicles in the US emit more carbon than all freight trucks, trains, ships and airplanes combined. Here is a good breakdown of the sources of emissions in the US from the EPA. It's very much worth a read. https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions#transportation https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emis...
orliesaurus 7y ago
Pretty much any big city I travelled to London, Seattle, San Francisco just to name a few...walk in the streets of the city by night and you will see what I mean. Sure, power efficient lighting is great and so are sensors but why are the lights on at night? Why are the motion-sensors that are so widespread (most offices you say?) not working to switch the lights off?