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>I don't see any alternative to letting people make claims and making laws to stop them blatantly lying. What is the "best" product in any category? How does th

>I don't see any alternative to letting people make claims and making laws to stop them blatantly lying. What is the "best" product in any category? How does the best product surface in front of me without advertising in any context? Are you aware of the concept of independent product reviews that you can build trust to and seek out on your own if you are interested in them? >Advertising is a part of it, sure, but it's not the whole picture. There is no direct financial incentive for them without advertising. A political actor might sponsor fake news, so it wouldn't disappear, but most of it gets made because it's a cheap way to generate highly engaging content that gets shared a lot.

have_faith 7y ago
> concept of independent product reviews How did these original purchasers find out about these products in order to buy and review them? How do I know they aren't receiving products for free or more subtly being specific in what products they will or won't review in order to spin a narrative. I'm a big fan of good product reviews but this doesn't solve advertisings problems it just introduces new ones. I'm not really sure how businesses survive in a world where they are not allowed to advertise their products or where they are located? It feels very artificially prescribed in how you think people should discover something. Like you I don't even like ads, and I would rather not see them but I don't advocate for them not to be able to exist, just for my right to block them or in the real world for them to no intrude unnecessarily. What solution do you envisage to the problem of ads as you see it? to ban them entirely?
- cyborgx7 7y ago
  >How did these original purchasers find out about these products in order to buy and review them? Professional reviewers already find out directly fron the product creators. They want to be contacted by them and even seek out contact. This problem is already solved. In general, they certainly don't learn about products from advertising. >How do I know they aren't receiving products for free or more subtly being specific in what products they will or won't review in order to spin a narrative. I'm a big fan of good product reviews but this doesn't solve advertisings problems it just introduces new ones. I generally don't have a problem with professional reviewers recieving products for free to review them. If they get paid to push a certain product, while pretending they are a neutral source of information, I would consider this fraud. >What solution do you envisage to the problem of ads as you see it? to ban them entirely? Yes, I advocate banning advertising and I hope to contribute to support to put that measure into place.

have_faith 7y ago

> concept of independent product reviews How did these original purchasers find out about these products in order to buy and review them? How do I know they aren't receiving products for free or more subtly being specific in what products they will or won't review in order to spin a narrative. I'm a big fan of good product reviews but this doesn't solve advertisings problems it just introduces new ones. I'm not really sure how businesses survive in a world where they are not allowed to advertise their products or where they are located? It feels very artificially prescribed in how you think people should discover something. Like you I don't even like ads, and I would rather not see them but I don't advocate for them not to be able to exist, just for my right to block them or in the real world for them to no intrude unnecessarily. What solution do you envisage to the problem of ads as you see it? to ban them entirely?

cyborgx7 7y ago
>How did these original purchasers find out about these products in order to buy and review them? Professional reviewers already find out directly fron the product creators. They want to be contacted by them and even seek out contact. This problem is already solved. In general, they certainly don't learn about products from advertising. >How do I know they aren't receiving products for free or more subtly being specific in what products they will or won't review in order to spin a narrative. I'm a big fan of good product reviews but this doesn't solve advertisings problems it just introduces new ones. I generally don't have a problem with professional reviewers recieving products for free to review them. If they get paid to push a certain product, while pretending they are a neutral source of information, I would consider this fraud. >What solution do you envisage to the problem of ads as you see it? to ban them entirely? Yes, I advocate banning advertising and I hope to contribute to support to put that measure into place.