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This is one of two lightning talks I was holding at EmacsConf 2019[1]. By now, organice has naturally evolved even further - for example it features WebDAV sup

by preek 7y ago

This is one of two lightning talks I was holding at EmacsConf 2019[1]. By now, organice has naturally evolved even further - for example it features WebDAV support. With that, organice can potentially be used with a multitude of synchronization backends: Client/Server services ownCloud, Nextcloud and Seafile, but also self hosted dedicated WebDAV servers like Apache or Nginx. 1. https://emacsconf.org/2019/schedule https://emacsconf.org/2019/schedule

brudgers 7y ago
As an org-mode user, it looks like a great project. The Youtube video might benefit from editing. The first four minutes don't tell me much about the product, what it does, and why someone should care. When something is awesome, or just useful, the maker's credentials don't matter very much. For users, the license is mostly irrelevant (philosophical commitments aside). Installation instructions are less important than helping users decide whether the product is worth installing. Put things in a hierarchy. First tell people what it is and what it can do. Link to download information. On the download page, link to more information about yourself. Make it easy for people to decide not to use it...most people don't use org-mode and that's ok, I guess.
- preek 7y ago
  Thank you for the feedback. The video is of a lightning talk for EmacsConf and specifically tailored to this audience. For a general introduction, I'd choose your way, of course(;
dcolkitt 7y ago
Very cool. Thanks for making this. I'll definitely be installing it. Just an opinion, but I'd vote adding git as a backend option. I think it's pretty common for people to keep their org-mode files in a catchall repo.
- RMPR 7y ago
  I agree with this, it's the same issue I have with the mobile app I'm using actually for org-mode: orgzly, I ended up syncing manually with the mobile app MGit.
tomlong 7y ago
I don't use organice, but I do keep my org files in WebDAV. I use fastmail anyway and I've ended up putting them in the WebDAV provided by them, having tried nextcloud amongst other things. It's a really good solution. My laptop loads the webdav on boot, and my phone app will load from a webdav share as well. I also keep my kdbx files stored like this.
- rpdillon 7y ago
  I also use org mode, Fastmail, and I run a NextCloud instance. I'm OK using Fastmail's WebDAV, but I somewhat prefer the self-hosted aspect of NextCloud. Are you able to share any insights about why NextCloud didn't work for you? They might save me some effort!
  - tomlong 7y ago
    Sorry for late reply. It was just slow and unreliable. Probably as much down to the machine i ran it on as anything. It was also a while ago. I just found with fastmail it consistently just worked. Also I really need those passwords, and as much as they are backed up I preferred relying on FM than myself.

by preek 7y ago

brudgers 7y ago

As an org-mode user, it looks like a great project. The Youtube video might benefit from editing. The first four minutes don't tell me much about the product, what it does, and why someone should care. When something is awesome, or just useful, the maker's credentials don't matter very much. For users, the license is mostly irrelevant (philosophical commitments aside). Installation instructions are less important than helping users decide whether the product is worth installing. Put things in a hierarchy. First tell people what it is and what it can do. Link to download information. On the download page, link to more information about yourself. Make it easy for people to decide not to use it...most people don't use org-mode and that's ok, I guess.

preek 7y ago
Thank you for the feedback. The video is of a lightning talk for EmacsConf and specifically tailored to this audience. For a general introduction, I'd choose your way, of course(;

dcolkitt 7y ago

Very cool. Thanks for making this. I'll definitely be installing it. Just an opinion, but I'd vote adding git as a backend option. I think it's pretty common for people to keep their org-mode files in a catchall repo.

RMPR 7y ago
I agree with this, it's the same issue I have with the mobile app I'm using actually for org-mode: orgzly, I ended up syncing manually with the mobile app MGit.

tomlong 7y ago

I don't use organice, but I do keep my org files in WebDAV. I use fastmail anyway and I've ended up putting them in the WebDAV provided by them, having tried nextcloud amongst other things. It's a really good solution. My laptop loads the webdav on boot, and my phone app will load from a webdav share as well. I also keep my kdbx files stored like this.

rpdillon 7y ago
I also use org mode, Fastmail, and I run a NextCloud instance. I'm OK using Fastmail's WebDAV, but I somewhat prefer the self-hosted aspect of NextCloud. Are you able to share any insights about why NextCloud didn't work for you? They might save me some effort!
- tomlong 7y ago
  Sorry for late reply. It was just slow and unreliable. Probably as much down to the machine i ran it on as anything. It was also a while ago. I just found with fastmail it consistently just worked. Also I really need those passwords, and as much as they are backed up I preferred relying on FM than myself.