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He shifted a whole industry towards a new paradigm. Look at Germany, they are desperate to catch up with Tesla, finally moving into electric cars. Without Elon

He shifted a whole industry towards a new paradigm. Look at Germany, they are desperate to catch up with Tesla, finally moving into electric cars. Without Elon they would keep selling their Diesel scam for the next decades.

Roark66 7y ago
Actually it was a bunch of Phd students from some Californian Uni that discovered the vw diesel scam. There is a short documentary about them online. Elon has no credit whatsoever in dieselgate. However, he did make electric cars something an average person would like to have. He also chose to make it work using the same inefficient principle of hauling 2 tons of steel to transport a single person. What he made is an electric luxury car, not a car for the masses that can replace average Joe's car. Is there anything wrong with that? No, there isn't, but let's not pretend a $35k (in US - much more in EU) car that requires hours of charging after driving 250 miles unless you happen to have Tesla's superchargers on your way is a new "volkswagen - a people's car". Also I find it disingenuous to advertise full battery capacity while at the same time recommending people use only 60% of it "for longevity". Many people don't buy new cars, but choose to buy 5-8 year old cars that are really good value if they were maintained well. It remains to be seen how Teslas behave in that market. It would be really revolutionary if someone could create and market an electric car that was truly innovative for example: much lighter than current cars while still being safe during collision, use fuel cell technology with fuel such as methanol or similar that can be created in a sustainable way, even using a fuel cell with mined hydrocarbons and electric drive would provide for a huge reduction in emissions due to increase in efficiency. Do Teslas have a role to play in reducing emissions? Yes, definitely, but let's not present them as a single solution to all individual transport problems.
- mav3rick 7y ago
  Jesus, technology evolves. This is a good start.
- fastball 7y ago
  Nobody is presenting them as a single solution to all individual transport problems. Also nobody is pretending that this is the new "people's car".
- robdachshund 7y ago
  He sid nothing about Elon discovering the diesel sham. He just said germans want to buy his cars

Roark66 7y ago

Actually it was a bunch of Phd students from some Californian Uni that discovered the vw diesel scam. There is a short documentary about them online. Elon has no credit whatsoever in dieselgate. However, he did make electric cars something an average person would like to have. He also chose to make it work using the same inefficient principle of hauling 2 tons of steel to transport a single person. What he made is an electric luxury car, not a car for the masses that can replace average Joe's car. Is there anything wrong with that? No, there isn't, but let's not pretend a $35k (in US - much more in EU) car that requires hours of charging after driving 250 miles unless you happen to have Tesla's superchargers on your way is a new "volkswagen - a people's car". Also I find it disingenuous to advertise full battery capacity while at the same time recommending people use only 60% of it "for longevity". Many people don't buy new cars, but choose to buy 5-8 year old cars that are really good value if they were maintained well. It remains to be seen how Teslas behave in that market. It would be really revolutionary if someone could create and market an electric car that was truly innovative for example: much lighter than current cars while still being safe during collision, use fuel cell technology with fuel such as methanol or similar that can be created in a sustainable way, even using a fuel cell with mined hydrocarbons and electric drive would provide for a huge reduction in emissions due to increase in efficiency. Do Teslas have a role to play in reducing emissions? Yes, definitely, but let's not present them as a single solution to all individual transport problems.

mav3rick 7y ago
Jesus, technology evolves. This is a good start.
fastball 7y ago
Nobody is presenting them as a single solution to all individual transport problems. Also nobody is pretending that this is the new "people's car".
robdachshund 7y ago
He sid nothing about Elon discovering the diesel sham. He just said germans want to buy his cars