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I remember reading sentiments like in the late 00's and early 10's and feeling justified in feeling that I at that age was being infantilized by society and tha

I remember reading sentiments like in the late 00's and early 10's and feeling justified in feeling that I at that age was being infantilized by society and that teenagers and people in their early twenties are more capable if they were given just, as the article puts it, not just more freedom but more responsibility. Today though, more than 10 years later, it seems the pendulum has continued to drift even further, with some people suggesting, as the article hints, that adults aren't really adults until perhaps 30.

eitland 7y ago
> teenagers and people in their early twenties are more capable if they were given just, as the article puts it, not just more freedom but more responsibility. Agree. Although it probably should come gradually, a 15 y.o. probably shouldn't be judged as hard as 25 y.o. or a 55 y.o. I've read before that a theory is that choosing 18 years (or 21 or whatever it is where you live) as the age of adulthood was done in a time when people were actually held responsible for their actions after they were 15. I also think I read that certain parts of the brain didn't develop until a person start being held accountable for their actions. I cannot find it at the moment so for what I and you know this is pure speculation (unless anyone remember it or care to find it) but to me it doesn't sound to unreasonable
- Mirioron 7y ago
  >in a time when people were actually held responsible for their actions after they were 15. Interestingly enough, people are legally held criminally responsible at ages of 14-16 in quite a few countries. But even in those countries they're often treated as just kids with no say.
  - Nasrudith 7y ago
    Really the age of responsibility is transparently bullshit based upon whatever is more convenient to the rulemakers and enforcers than any unified principles - and occasionally lapses into Kafkaesque insanity.
- noobermin 7y ago
  Agree on the easing into it as one grows older. I didn't fit that into my comment but that's what I think is more ideal.
aklemm 7y ago
I said it elsewhere in the thread, but I think you've keyed in on it with "responsibility". It would be interesting to study teens that have younger siblings that they have to take care of. Surely they hate it, but I would bet dollars that those teens turn out better than those of us with no responsibility for actual family/community needs.

eitland 7y ago

> teenagers and people in their early twenties are more capable if they were given just, as the article puts it, not just more freedom but more responsibility. Agree. Although it probably should come gradually, a 15 y.o. probably shouldn't be judged as hard as 25 y.o. or a 55 y.o. I've read before that a theory is that choosing 18 years (or 21 or whatever it is where you live) as the age of adulthood was done in a time when people were actually held responsible for their actions after they were 15. I also think I read that certain parts of the brain didn't develop until a person start being held accountable for their actions. I cannot find it at the moment so for what I and you know this is pure speculation (unless anyone remember it or care to find it) but to me it doesn't sound to unreasonable

Mirioron 7y ago
>in a time when people were actually held responsible for their actions after they were 15. Interestingly enough, people are legally held criminally responsible at ages of 14-16 in quite a few countries. But even in those countries they're often treated as just kids with no say.
- Nasrudith 7y ago
  Really the age of responsibility is transparently bullshit based upon whatever is more convenient to the rulemakers and enforcers than any unified principles - and occasionally lapses into Kafkaesque insanity.
noobermin 7y ago
Agree on the easing into it as one grows older. I didn't fit that into my comment but that's what I think is more ideal.

aklemm 7y ago

I said it elsewhere in the thread, but I think you've keyed in on it with "responsibility". It would be interesting to study teens that have younger siblings that they have to take care of. Surely they hate it, but I would bet dollars that those teens turn out better than those of us with no responsibility for actual family/community needs.