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I was there for most of that, but loosing 32-bit feels different to me. For the physical peripherals, I could still use them on old hardware. Forcing me to re

I was there for most of that, but loosing 32-bit feels different to me. For the physical peripherals, I could still use them on old hardware. Forcing me to remain on an old OS is far more severe and I too (and everyone in my extended family) ran into this. In particular, my relatives depend on the old Microsoft office packages they bought eons ago. "Fixing" the problem Apple gifted us means buying and learning new software (and AFAICT, you can't even buy Office anymore, only rent it). This is extremely disappointing and I'm not even sure what to do next time their hardware dies (which has happened multiple times).

mrpippy 7y ago
You can buy permanent licenses of Office 2019, it’s $250.
- smartbit 7y ago
  Do you still have to register an account with Microsoft? IOW, as updates can go through the MacStore, can you use the permanent License of Office 2019 on the Mac without ever connecting to Microsoft?
  - merb 7y ago
    I do not think that this works.
  - jki275 7y ago
    Dude, MS has had activation for their products for like a decade and a half if not more.
lemoncucumber 7y ago
It’s not so different from 10.7 dropping Rosetta, which led to a similar scenario where upgrading your OS meant a bunch of old PPC apps could no longer run. Again I’m not defending Apple, just pointing out that all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again with Apple. If you value compatibility with old binaries highly, Windows is a much better platform for that than macOS.
- lostgame 7y ago
  There was a reason for that - a benefit for users - there was a platform change, whose speed increases made an actual legit argument for the platform change. There is no benefit to removal of 32-bit apps. There is no purpose, from the user's end, other than fucking them over, that I can see. There's not even any reason given. Rumours of an ARM platform change do not an ARM platform change make. Catalina is worthless and detrimental to me as an upgrade.
jki275 7y ago
You can buy Office just fine. They push 365, but that's just a licensing model, you can buy regular licenses just as easily.
- FullyFunctional 7y ago
  Ok, thanks, but it doesn't change that it's an unwanted expense and, the worst part, require new training. Of course I already just learned that most of my Steam library would also turn into a pumpkin if I upgraded. Seems like I'm stuck on Mojave forever.
  - jki275 7y ago
    I'm not sure what this "new training" is, I've never had any training with Office and have been using it in most of its variations since it was first released.
    - FullyFunctional 7y ago
      Are you 75+? My parents are. Move an icon an they get confused (I say that without judgement - they have not like grown up with an intuitive for software)

mrpippy 7y ago

You can buy permanent licenses of Office 2019, it’s $250.

smartbit 7y ago
Do you still have to register an account with Microsoft? IOW, as updates can go through the MacStore, can you use the permanent License of Office 2019 on the Mac without ever connecting to Microsoft?
- merb 7y ago
  I do not think that this works.
- jki275 7y ago
  Dude, MS has had activation for their products for like a decade and a half if not more.

lemoncucumber 7y ago

It’s not so different from 10.7 dropping Rosetta, which led to a similar scenario where upgrading your OS meant a bunch of old PPC apps could no longer run. Again I’m not defending Apple, just pointing out that all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again with Apple. If you value compatibility with old binaries highly, Windows is a much better platform for that than macOS.

lostgame 7y ago
There was a reason for that - a benefit for users - there was a platform change, whose speed increases made an actual legit argument for the platform change. There is no benefit to removal of 32-bit apps. There is no purpose, from the user's end, other than fucking them over, that I can see. There's not even any reason given. Rumours of an ARM platform change do not an ARM platform change make. Catalina is worthless and detrimental to me as an upgrade.

jki275 7y ago

You can buy Office just fine. They push 365, but that's just a licensing model, you can buy regular licenses just as easily.

FullyFunctional 7y ago
Ok, thanks, but it doesn't change that it's an unwanted expense and, the worst part, require new training. Of course I already just learned that most of my Steam library would also turn into a pumpkin if I upgraded. Seems like I'm stuck on Mojave forever.
- jki275 7y ago
  I'm not sure what this "new training" is, I've never had any training with Office and have been using it in most of its variations since it was first released.
  - FullyFunctional 7y ago
    Are you 75+? My parents are. Move an icon an they get confused (I say that without judgement - they have not like grown up with an intuitive for software)