Yeah, and it's not necessarily an overt thing. As an example, we were very gender indifferent with our first daughter. She loved "boy" and "girl" toys. And c

Yeah, and it's not necessarily an overt thing. As an example, we were very gender indifferent with our first daughter. She loved "boy" and "girl" toys. And colors. She loved snakes, reptiles, bugs, spiders, etc. She loved to get dirty and roughhouse, which we were fine with. She was mostly the opposite of the girls our local parent friends were raising, whom weren't even allowed to play in the dirt. For her 4th birthday, we had a reptile guy show up. She was the only girl child that would touch any of them, let alone let snakes slither around on her. She loved it. It's not like we shut her off from girl stuff - her only cousin was an older girl that liked "girl stuff", and our kid looked up to her. We just always presented them as equal options for her. Once she got into preschool things started changing. After a year, now there are boy toys and girl toys. Colors are gendered. Bugs and reptiles are icky. Dirt is yucky. And so on. I'm not going to make a claim that any girl I've never met has or hasn't been affected by society to like "girl" things. But it would take an act of god to convince me our daughter wasn't.