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I'm not saying there should not be a mechanism for regulating that sort of stuff. BUT on StackOverflow it is entirely normal, even expected, that you post a we

I'm not saying there should not be a mechanism for regulating that sort of stuff. BUT on StackOverflow it is entirely normal, even expected, that you post a well thought out and reasoned question and its instantly downvoted because, well, who knows why? Drive-by downvoting is simply negative. A different mechanism could be used for the sorts of issues you identify.

jasode 7y ago
>A different mechanism could be used for the sorts of issues you identify. Would the new proposed mechanism require more volunteer work or the same effort as now? Btw, many people forget that back in 2011, Jeff Atwood was concerned that there was too much crap and the community was not downvoting enough. Therefore, he removed the points penalty to encourage the community to aggressively downvote more: https://stackoverflow.blog/2011/06/13/optimizing-for-pearls-not-sand/ https://stackoverflow.blog/2011/06/13/optimizing-for-pearls-...
thrower123 7y ago
Is this really the common behavior? I feel like I live in a different world... Maybe I do; I don't ask a ton of questions, and when I do they are usually on pretty small niche tags, but the last several times I've asked something, I've wound up with a friendly soul suggest something within an hour or two that's gotten me pointed in the right direction.
triceratops 7y ago
What if downvoting required leaving an anonymized comment?
Ajedi32 7y ago
Can you point to an example of a "well thought out and reasoned question" on SO that's at a negative score? In my experience, that just doesn't happen. Most questions sit at a score of 0, and those which do receive votes are almost always upvoted. (The data supports this[1].) Questions rarely end up with a negative score, and when they do it's usually because there are obvious problems with their formatting or content. (Usually low effort, off topic, or an obvious duplicate.) [1]: https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1096887/question-score-frequency-whole-site#resultSets https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1096887/q...
stinos 7y ago
on StackOverflow it is entirely normal, even expected, that you post a well thought out and reasoned question and its instantly downvoted because, well, who knows why Hmm, not my experience, at all. Though I heard this more than once, so I see a couple of possible reasons (or combinations thereof): - depends on the community/tag; I've mainly asked questions tagged with the languages starting with a C, some git stuff and some more obscure things - depends on the poster's reputation points i.e. maybe there's a bias to not downvoting/closing questions asked by people with 10k+ points? - the questions were not actually well thought out/reasoned even though you think they are Any ideas?

jasode 7y ago

>A different mechanism could be used for the sorts of issues you identify. Would the new proposed mechanism require more volunteer work or the same effort as now? Btw, many people forget that back in 2011, Jeff Atwood was concerned that there was too much crap and the community was not downvoting enough. Therefore, he removed the points penalty to encourage the community to aggressively downvote more: https://stackoverflow.blog/2011/06/13/optimizing-for-pearls-not-sand/ https://stackoverflow.blog/2011/06/13/optimizing-for-pearls-...

thrower123 7y ago

Is this really the common behavior? I feel like I live in a different world... Maybe I do; I don't ask a ton of questions, and when I do they are usually on pretty small niche tags, but the last several times I've asked something, I've wound up with a friendly soul suggest something within an hour or two that's gotten me pointed in the right direction.

triceratops 7y ago

What if downvoting required leaving an anonymized comment?

Ajedi32 7y ago

Can you point to an example of a "well thought out and reasoned question" on SO that's at a negative score? In my experience, that just doesn't happen. Most questions sit at a score of 0, and those which do receive votes are almost always upvoted. (The data supports this[1].) Questions rarely end up with a negative score, and when they do it's usually because there are obvious problems with their formatting or content. (Usually low effort, off topic, or an obvious duplicate.) [1]: https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1096887/question-score-frequency-whole-site#resultSets https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1096887/q...

stinos 7y ago

on StackOverflow it is entirely normal, even expected, that you post a well thought out and reasoned question and its instantly downvoted because, well, who knows why Hmm, not my experience, at all. Though I heard this more than once, so I see a couple of possible reasons (or combinations thereof): - depends on the community/tag; I've mainly asked questions tagged with the languages starting with a C, some git stuff and some more obscure things - depends on the poster's reputation points i.e. maybe there's a bias to not downvoting/closing questions asked by people with 10k+ points? - the questions were not actually well thought out/reasoned even though you think they are Any ideas?