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Link to spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SP3Sqqdv6R8chFamjtgdNlOrUar-hJXvkMSeha2mHQ8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1665107219 https://docs.google.co

by Cenk 7y ago

Link to spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SP3Sqqdv6R8chFamjtgdNlOrUar-hJXvkMSeha2mHQ8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1665107219 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SP3Sqqdv6R8chFamjtgd...

iagovar 7y ago
Clean the data, normalize, make some multiple regressions and you may have something interesting Edit: The data is honestly a mess. Good luck to anyone that want's to make any analysis. They should have done a proper form.
- danso 7y ago
  On the Google form, under the Salary header, there's a text box. Which imho is fine, given the inherent complexity of the potential input (some salaries are annual, others are by the hour or by the story, with a cap on the latter), and without adding multiple fields to the form.
- deleted 7y ago
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TurkishPoptart 7y ago
Thanks for linking to the real data. Why does everyone call themselves a "cis", though?
- excalibur 7y ago
  Cisgendered, means they identify as the gender they were assigned at birth and are not transgender or genderqueer (Queer in this sense doesn't mean gay, it means they have some combination of gender traits that doesn't fit neatly into either male or female).
  - theandrewbailey 7y ago
    Here I am thinking that gender is observed at birth, not assigned.
    - danso 7y ago
      The practice is commonly referred to as sex (or gender) assignment.
- bluntfang 7y ago
  These gender/orientation demographics are important to identify demographics that may be receiving a disproportionate salary.
mrep 7y ago
Honestly, that doesn't look as bad as I thought it would be considering all the reports of how journalism is dead. US median wage for those with a bachelors degree is about $62,000 dollars a year [0] which seems similar to the median in the sheet from eyeballing it. [0]: https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-educatio...
- abathur 7y ago
  Not to suggest they aren't also struggling, but mostly-national outlets with a strong or exclusive web presence aren't the epicenter of the crisis in journalism--they're the outlets weathering the storm. Newspapers, particularly local and regional ones, are the epicenter of the crisis--and they are being hollowed out. This AP article (https://apnews.com/a0409119ab71400b944662fc770593a0 https://apnews.com/a0409119ab71400b944662fc770593a0) is a good place to catch up. (Anecdata, but FWIW: GateHouse, mentioned in this article, acquired my hometown paper in the past year. My mom has variously worked residential and single-copy delivery for this paper for decades. My stepdad worked delivery, managed a delivery district, and was an early employee in the paper's online operations. Subjective, but their stories, firsthand and from friends, make it hard not to see it as an extractive vulture operation.)

by Cenk 7y ago

iagovar 7y ago

Clean the data, normalize, make some multiple regressions and you may have something interesting Edit: The data is honestly a mess. Good luck to anyone that want's to make any analysis. They should have done a proper form.

danso 7y ago
On the Google form, under the Salary header, there's a text box. Which imho is fine, given the inherent complexity of the potential input (some salaries are annual, others are by the hour or by the story, with a cap on the latter), and without adding multiple fields to the form.
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TurkishPoptart 7y ago

Thanks for linking to the real data. Why does everyone call themselves a "cis", though?

excalibur 7y ago
Cisgendered, means they identify as the gender they were assigned at birth and are not transgender or genderqueer (Queer in this sense doesn't mean gay, it means they have some combination of gender traits that doesn't fit neatly into either male or female).
- theandrewbailey 7y ago
  Here I am thinking that gender is observed at birth, not assigned.
  - danso 7y ago
    The practice is commonly referred to as sex (or gender) assignment.
bluntfang 7y ago
These gender/orientation demographics are important to identify demographics that may be receiving a disproportionate salary.

mrep 7y ago

Honestly, that doesn't look as bad as I thought it would be considering all the reports of how journalism is dead. US median wage for those with a bachelors degree is about $62,000 dollars a year [0] which seems similar to the median in the sheet from eyeballing it. [0]: https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-educatio...

abathur 7y ago
Not to suggest they aren't also struggling, but mostly-national outlets with a strong or exclusive web presence aren't the epicenter of the crisis in journalism--they're the outlets weathering the storm. Newspapers, particularly local and regional ones, are the epicenter of the crisis--and they are being hollowed out. This AP article (https://apnews.com/a0409119ab71400b944662fc770593a0 https://apnews.com/a0409119ab71400b944662fc770593a0) is a good place to catch up. (Anecdata, but FWIW: GateHouse, mentioned in this article, acquired my hometown paper in the past year. My mom has variously worked residential and single-copy delivery for this paper for decades. My stepdad worked delivery, managed a delivery district, and was an early employee in the paper's online operations. Subjective, but their stories, firsthand and from friends, make it hard not to see it as an extractive vulture operation.)