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Then why have the option to delete public repos at all? Public tweets? If we had the means, should the web as a whole be append-only? There’s a big difference
by beokop 7y ago
Then why have the option to delete public repos at all? Public tweets? If we had the means, should the web as a whole be append-only?
There’s a big difference between “public” and “stored in a glacier forever”.
- saagarjha 7y ago> Then why have the option to delete public repos at all? So you can feel better?
- afiori 7y agoThere is an important choice in deleting a public repo, even it has been archived elsewhere. At the very least you are no longer claiming that it fits your criteria of public portfolio.
- ocdtrekkie 7y agoHonestly, I would argue "stored in a glacier forever" is drastically more private than anything you've ever set to "public". The number of people who can actually get to and read that data is incredibly minimal.
- beokop 7y agoThere’s no reason to believe they won’t have an online copy of the 2020 snapshot too. Isn’t that kind of the point? For future generations to be able to use it?
- ocdtrekkie 7y agoThe online copy is... GitHub itself. Which is current and up-to-date, and you can continue to remove your data from. The 2020 snapshot is useful historically... like a time capsule. There's no reason to invest the resources in keeping it online. And if it was online, it would have major regulatory problems, such as GDPR. So there's a lot of reason to believe the 2020 snapshot won't also be online.
- huac 7y agoha, I am very curious if GDPR does apply to the offline snapshot. it will literally be on EU soil!
- afiori 7y agoIt will likely apply, still I imagine that they can simply pretend it does not. My intuition is that archiving data for long term historical use is different from datamining a [meta]data to maximize invasion of privacy. Also there is a difference in accessibility, stored inside a glacier very few people are going to actually read it. I believe that if mass complaints from all over the EU emerged it would be a different story. But this does not look like the activities the GDPR was created for
- scrollaway 7y agoIt will absolutely not apply. GDPR has provisions both for archival AND for cases where the removal etc requests are deemed unreasonable.
- ocdtrekkie 7y agoThis makes me wonder: How does GDPR apply to books? Essentially what's happening here, is that GitHub is printing off a "paper copy" and putting it in a box somewhere. You can't exactly GDPR request deletion of your information from a printed book, so I'm curious how GDPR applies to such physical archival mediums.
- ascorbic 7y agoNorway isn't in the EU
- palunon 7y agoBut Norway is in the EEA, where the GDPR also applies.
- tcd 7y agoI feel the term "deleting" is misleading. It's more akin to "hiding" - to me, deleted means unrecoverable, by anyone, at any time. Even your OS doesn't "delete" files, until the actual sector on the drive is overwritten (depending on media used, of course).
- mstade 7y ago> If we had the means, should the web as a whole be append-only? You probably meant this as a rhetorical question, but I'd argue that yes, (for public available data at least) it probably should be. It'd enable solutions to a lot of problems we have with the current web, not least archival and broken links.
- hadlock 7y ago> If we had the means, should the web as a whole be append-only? Yes, probably
- krapp 7y ago>If we had the means, should the web as a whole be append-only? I'm going to go against the HN zeitgeist and say no. If I have the right to publish something to the web, I should also have the right to edit and delete it if I so choose.
- celeritascelery 7y agoYou do have the right to delete it. And others have the right to make a copy before you do.
- krapp 7y agoThat's fine, but that's not the same as the web being "append-only."
- eitland 7y agoIt is a saying that "What happens on the Internet stays on the Internet. Forever."