3 ms·

Thanks for the excellent response. Good job spotting my (unintentionally) suppressed premise, (3). > I would rather that my employers tries the best possible a

Thanks for the excellent response. Good job spotting my (unintentionally) suppressed premise, (3). > I would rather that my employers tries the best possible at the (futile) task of being respectful and celebratory to all, and if problems are raised they try to be concluded with minimal conflict and maximum respect. I think we agree that employers ought to take positions somewhere on the Pereto curve [0] of that tradeoff-space. At one level, it seems to be a question of how happy various employee groups would feel for the different policy options. I don't have a principled reason for my own preference in that trade-space, so I try to not put my own views on a pedestal for this topic. If nobody has a convincing argument for the proper balance in that tradeoff-space, though, it makes me wonder if it's simply a matter of personal preference / opinion for everyone involved. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_efficiency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_efficiency

helen___keller 7y ago
Thanks for the discussion > If nobody has a convincing argument for the proper balance in that tradeoff-space, though, it makes me wonder if it's simply a matter of personal preference / opinion for everyone involved. I would suspect that it is, so I guess we've gone a bit meta because the "accepted" way for large organizations of humans to make these trade-offs is politics So then is it right to say the solution to "too much politics at work" is office politics to decide the right amount of politics at work?
- DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
  > So then is it right to say the solution to "too much politics at work" is office politics to decide the right amount of politics at work? I have the feeling I'm a few philosophy-degrees short of being confident in any particular answer to that question :( I hate it when discussions about potentially important topics end with a muddle of uncertainty about metaphysical matters. It seems to end this way just about every time.

helen___keller 7y ago

Thanks for the discussion > If nobody has a convincing argument for the proper balance in that tradeoff-space, though, it makes me wonder if it's simply a matter of personal preference / opinion for everyone involved. I would suspect that it is, so I guess we've gone a bit meta because the "accepted" way for large organizations of humans to make these trade-offs is politics So then is it right to say the solution to "too much politics at work" is office politics to decide the right amount of politics at work?

DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
> So then is it right to say the solution to "too much politics at work" is office politics to decide the right amount of politics at work? I have the feeling I'm a few philosophy-degrees short of being confident in any particular answer to that question :( I hate it when discussions about potentially important topics end with a muddle of uncertainty about metaphysical matters. It seems to end this way just about every time.