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Btw, Youtube replied here: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/dtr6gi/youtube_suspends_google_accounts_of_markipliers/f6zbqka/ https://www.reddit.com/r/vid

by kyrra 7y ago

Btw, Youtube replied here: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/dtr6gi/youtube_suspends_google_accounts_of_markipliers/f6zbqka/ https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/dtr6gi/youtube_susp... And Markiplier posted an UPDATE video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhb4CvOtEeo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhb4CvOtEeo (I'm a googler, opinions are my own).

papln 7y ago
> The whole-account "ban" was a common anti-spam measure we use. It's strange to me when someone restates the misbehavior as though it's a justification. If someone is abusing commenting, block them from commenting, sure. Don't disable all their other products. If someone is abusing two products, disable their whole account, then? Sure, if you want. That reduces the false-positives by about a square factor (0.1% -> 0.0001%)
cowmoo728 7y ago
Would this have turned out well if Markiplier wasn't a well known streamer that had worked closely with google on an interactive youtube special? It's worth noting that the appeals were initially denied and the people banned got a "case closed, nothing we can do" response.
LegitShady 7y ago
YouTube is full of shit. They're in a hurry abandoning the unprofitable "you" in YouTube and replacing it with will smith driven garbage. YouTube's denials about why it happened are again dumb, and a chat ban in YouTube should in no way affect the rest of your Google account. Just acknowledging that it happened isn't a good explanation. "Ya our rules are dumb and on manual review we were still stupid assholes" It's also impossible to get ahold of anyone at YouTube and YouTube's "ya we manually reviewed it and fucked up" is just another admission that their pile of a system just doesn't work. I'm moving away from Google and any other provider like them. These incidents only impress the need to do it faster. I can't risk having my business and life ruined because of a youtube algorithm with no one behind the wheel. I recommend everyone else do the same. Just the idea that YouTube chat bans would connect to other portions of the account means google is not interested in you. Every interaction with them is a threat to your digital well being where your whole account can be banned. It's totally unacceptable given the position they're in. And it can all be manually reviewer and you'll be told to go fuck yourself and if you aren't markeplier or whoever you have no recourse. Fuck that shit.
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zamalek 7y ago
I'm cancelling my Google One sub and Fi shortly, sadly after being incredibly impressed with roaming coverage. Google needs to do more than a Reddit comment. This is the second time you have done this, and you supposedly seriously damaged a few of the people involved (I'm guessing they are SOL in terms of that, and I don't want to be SOL). "Oops" only cuts it the first time.

by kyrra 7y ago

papln 7y ago

> The whole-account "ban" was a common anti-spam measure we use. It's strange to me when someone restates the misbehavior as though it's a justification. If someone is abusing commenting, block them from commenting, sure. Don't disable all their other products. If someone is abusing two products, disable their whole account, then? Sure, if you want. That reduces the false-positives by about a square factor (0.1% -> 0.0001%)

cowmoo728 7y ago

Would this have turned out well if Markiplier wasn't a well known streamer that had worked closely with google on an interactive youtube special? It's worth noting that the appeals were initially denied and the people banned got a "case closed, nothing we can do" response.

LegitShady 7y ago

YouTube is full of shit. They're in a hurry abandoning the unprofitable "you" in YouTube and replacing it with will smith driven garbage. YouTube's denials about why it happened are again dumb, and a chat ban in YouTube should in no way affect the rest of your Google account. Just acknowledging that it happened isn't a good explanation. "Ya our rules are dumb and on manual review we were still stupid assholes" It's also impossible to get ahold of anyone at YouTube and YouTube's "ya we manually reviewed it and fucked up" is just another admission that their pile of a system just doesn't work. I'm moving away from Google and any other provider like them. These incidents only impress the need to do it faster. I can't risk having my business and life ruined because of a youtube algorithm with no one behind the wheel. I recommend everyone else do the same. Just the idea that YouTube chat bans would connect to other portions of the account means google is not interested in you. Every interaction with them is a threat to your digital well being where your whole account can be banned. It's totally unacceptable given the position they're in. And it can all be manually reviewer and you'll be told to go fuck yourself and if you aren't markeplier or whoever you have no recourse. Fuck that shit.

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zamalek 7y ago

I'm cancelling my Google One sub and Fi shortly, sadly after being incredibly impressed with roaming coverage. Google needs to do more than a Reddit comment. This is the second time you have done this, and you supposedly seriously damaged a few of the people involved (I'm guessing they are SOL in terms of that, and I don't want to be SOL). "Oops" only cuts it the first time.