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I don't see how a secret ballet couldn't still be checked later by the voter. If we're talking paper ballots, then each ballot could have a unique id printed on

I don't see how a secret ballet couldn't still be checked later by the voter. If we're talking paper ballots, then each ballot could have a unique id printed on it. The voter could either write the number down or the ballot could have a "receipt" section you tear off and keep. The numbers could be recorded as they're being counted and published later. The voter could then check to make sure his or her vote was counted appropriately. This would be even easier digitally.

hirundo 7y ago
If you can't prove that the unique id is associated with a particular voter, it isn't good enough because it can't prove that their vote was altered. If it can be associated with a particular voter, it can be used as proof to satisfy a vote buyer or intimidator. However it does have the advantage of not being entirely public, making the voter less open to influence or retribution by family, employers, etc.
- ScottFree 7y ago
  > If you can't prove that the unique id is associated with a particular voter, it isn't good enough because it can't prove that their vote was altered. It's up to the voter to confirm their vote was counted correctly.
  - pintxo 7y ago
    And then what? It will be your word of “I voted A” against the factual “B” on the paper.
    - ScottFree 7y ago
      The whole point is to ensure your vote gets counted correctly, yes? If you wanted to vote Democrat and discover your id in the Republican column, you let somebody know. Then they re-check the ballot and can say "no, you marked Republican. That was your mistake and we didn't count it wrong." Or they'll say "gee golly, yes, we counted your vote wrong. Our mistake. We'll correct the counts." If your id isn't in either column, you also let somebody know so you can re-vote. This makes sure your vote doesn't get "misplaced", either by malice or incompetence.
drdeadringer 7y ago
> or the ballot could have a "receipt" section you tear off and keep It's been a few years, but doesn't California's "vote by mail" do this? You get the ballot in the mail, you vote, you sign and date, you tear off the half-inch strip of paper off the top, and mail it back. You keep the narrow strip of paper if you want.

hirundo 7y ago

If you can't prove that the unique id is associated with a particular voter, it isn't good enough because it can't prove that their vote was altered. If it can be associated with a particular voter, it can be used as proof to satisfy a vote buyer or intimidator. However it does have the advantage of not being entirely public, making the voter less open to influence or retribution by family, employers, etc.

ScottFree 7y ago
> If you can't prove that the unique id is associated with a particular voter, it isn't good enough because it can't prove that their vote was altered. It's up to the voter to confirm their vote was counted correctly.
- pintxo 7y ago
  And then what? It will be your word of “I voted A” against the factual “B” on the paper.
  - ScottFree 7y ago
    The whole point is to ensure your vote gets counted correctly, yes? If you wanted to vote Democrat and discover your id in the Republican column, you let somebody know. Then they re-check the ballot and can say "no, you marked Republican. That was your mistake and we didn't count it wrong." Or they'll say "gee golly, yes, we counted your vote wrong. Our mistake. We'll correct the counts." If your id isn't in either column, you also let somebody know so you can re-vote. This makes sure your vote doesn't get "misplaced", either by malice or incompetence.

drdeadringer 7y ago

> or the ballot could have a "receipt" section you tear off and keep It's been a few years, but doesn't California's "vote by mail" do this? You get the ballot in the mail, you vote, you sign and date, you tear off the half-inch strip of paper off the top, and mail it back. You keep the narrow strip of paper if you want.