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Same with iPhone 6s. Not sure why can't admit that reached the peak with a product and just keep producing it that way, maybe with minor modifications only. I w

Same with iPhone 6s. Not sure why can't admit that reached the peak with a product and just keep producing it that way, maybe with minor modifications only. I would totally keep buying 2015 MPBs and iPhone6s till the end of times.

wingerlang 7y ago
Isn't this kind of like the "they'd ask for faster horses" quote?
- augustk 7y ago
  Exactly what I was thinking: "Our pro customers tell us they want their next horse to have blazing-fast performance etc."
- StreamBright 7y ago
  This is exactly it. I need a horse, it can be slightly faster, not required though. There is no horse vs car improvement between iPhone 6s vs iPhone 11, but they removed jack and increased price for no good reason. Btw. I do not think that there can be a horse vs car bump in UX for phones. Maybe I am my imagination is limited. :)
  - briandear 7y ago
    > but they removed jack and increased price for no good reason Have you actually used the camera on 11 Pro? Have you seen the display? No good reason — that’s ridiculous.
    - StreamBright 7y ago
      Yes, non of those matter to me. Jack port does.
  - wingerlang 7y ago
    Maybe it is not a car from a horse, but it certainly is a motorcycle in terms of UX improvements. FaceID, swipe interactions over a button and IMO the removed chin makes it all into a big user experience jump.
    - Apocryphon 7y ago
      Not sure how many favor swipe interactions over having a button.
      - wingerlang 7y ago
        I'd guess a lot who have gotten used to it (as in - not used it to try out). Can you even fast-switch between applications on a buttoned iPhone? It's probably my number one used interaction on the phone.
- rurp 7y ago
  Sure, but instead of creating the Model T Apple created an ambling burro. Some people like it for some use cases, but a lot of those who just wanted a faster horse are understandably a bit miffed.
jdhawk 7y ago
the 8 is basically a 6s, right?
- akhilcacharya 7y ago
  No headphone jack, which is big for me. If I was willing to ditch the headphone jack I'd just get the 11 Pro.
  - StreamBright 7y ago
    Same, I use a iPad mini for music & phone conversations because I will not give up my headphones, unless they produce a wireless one that I can charge once a year and it can transfer ALAC/FLAC, and it has the sound quality of the previous one.
    - katbyte 7y ago
      Well at least with the new phones you can use a lightning -> headphone converter and a wireless charger so there is that. Not ideal as i miss the headphone jack and don't like wireless too but it works well.

wingerlang 7y ago

Isn't this kind of like the "they'd ask for faster horses" quote?

augustk 7y ago
Exactly what I was thinking: "Our pro customers tell us they want their next horse to have blazing-fast performance etc."
StreamBright 7y ago
This is exactly it. I need a horse, it can be slightly faster, not required though. There is no horse vs car improvement between iPhone 6s vs iPhone 11, but they removed jack and increased price for no good reason. Btw. I do not think that there can be a horse vs car bump in UX for phones. Maybe I am my imagination is limited. :)
- briandear 7y ago
  > but they removed jack and increased price for no good reason Have you actually used the camera on 11 Pro? Have you seen the display? No good reason — that’s ridiculous.
  - StreamBright 7y ago
    Yes, non of those matter to me. Jack port does.
- wingerlang 7y ago
  Maybe it is not a car from a horse, but it certainly is a motorcycle in terms of UX improvements. FaceID, swipe interactions over a button and IMO the removed chin makes it all into a big user experience jump.
  - Apocryphon 7y ago
    Not sure how many favor swipe interactions over having a button.
    - wingerlang 7y ago
      I'd guess a lot who have gotten used to it (as in - not used it to try out). Can you even fast-switch between applications on a buttoned iPhone? It's probably my number one used interaction on the phone.
rurp 7y ago
Sure, but instead of creating the Model T Apple created an ambling burro. Some people like it for some use cases, but a lot of those who just wanted a faster horse are understandably a bit miffed.

jdhawk 7y ago

the 8 is basically a 6s, right?

akhilcacharya 7y ago
No headphone jack, which is big for me. If I was willing to ditch the headphone jack I'd just get the 11 Pro.
- StreamBright 7y ago
  Same, I use a iPad mini for music & phone conversations because I will not give up my headphones, unless they produce a wireless one that I can charge once a year and it can transfer ALAC/FLAC, and it has the sound quality of the previous one.
  - katbyte 7y ago
    Well at least with the new phones you can use a lightning -> headphone converter and a wireless charger so there is that. Not ideal as i miss the headphone jack and don't like wireless too but it works well.