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If you map jk and kj to <Esc> you can just mash both keys at once and it doesn't matter which one registers first!

darkteflon 7y ago
Have to ask: for all you jj / jk mappers, don’t you end up triggering this by accident when you’re just cruising around your code?
- alexjm 7y ago
  Very rarely. The only place I notice a difference is if the last letter I type is a j, the cursor 'hesitates' for a moment because Vim is watching for a k. The advantage I found of jk over jj is that, in normal mode, jk is a no-op, so if I hit jk as Escape when I was already in normal mode, it doesn't matter. The only problem is that when I'm editing text out of Vim, I end up with the occasional jk at the end of my typing. That almost happened while writing this comment.
- positr0n 7y ago
  For cruising around my code the advantage is that jk/kj doesn't do anything in normal mode (cruising mode, haha). So I can just start mashing jk in a terminal window that I don't know what mode I left vim in. The biggest downside to jk/kj mapping is that words that end with k are somewhat common. So a few times a week I will type something like "splunk" and want to exit insert mode immediately so I mash jk/kj after the k. 50% of the time the j is first so I end up with "splun" (kj is <esc>) (k moves up since we're in normal mode now).
  - ascagnel_ 7y ago
    > The biggest downside to jk/kj mapping is that words that end with k are somewhat common. So a few times a week I will type something like "splunk" and want to exit insert mode immediately so I mash jk/kj after the k. 50% of the time the j is first so I end up with "splun" (kj is <esc>) (k moves up since we're in normal mode now). This is why I use `jj` instead of `jk`/`kj` -- as a native English speaker in a job where everyone primarily speaks English, there are few cases where I'd be writing code with a `jj` naturally in a string.
- roland35 7y ago
  I haven't had that happen yet with jk at least, I could see jj triggering something if you have the timeout setting too long.
- L3viathan 7y ago
  There's also vim-arpeggio, with which you can define mappings for simultanously held-down keys: https://github.com/kana/vim-arpeggio https://github.com/kana/vim-arpeggio

Have to ask: for all you jj / jk mappers, don’t you end up triggering this by accident when you’re just cruising around your code?

alexjm 7y ago
Very rarely. The only place I notice a difference is if the last letter I type is a j, the cursor 'hesitates' for a moment because Vim is watching for a k. The advantage I found of jk over jj is that, in normal mode, jk is a no-op, so if I hit jk as Escape when I was already in normal mode, it doesn't matter. The only problem is that when I'm editing text out of Vim, I end up with the occasional jk at the end of my typing. That almost happened while writing this comment.
positr0n 7y ago
For cruising around my code the advantage is that jk/kj doesn't do anything in normal mode (cruising mode, haha). So I can just start mashing jk in a terminal window that I don't know what mode I left vim in. The biggest downside to jk/kj mapping is that words that end with k are somewhat common. So a few times a week I will type something like "splunk" and want to exit insert mode immediately so I mash jk/kj after the k. 50% of the time the j is first so I end up with "splun" (kj is <esc>) (k moves up since we're in normal mode now).
- ascagnel_ 7y ago
  > The biggest downside to jk/kj mapping is that words that end with k are somewhat common. So a few times a week I will type something like "splunk" and want to exit insert mode immediately so I mash jk/kj after the k. 50% of the time the j is first so I end up with "splun" (kj is <esc>) (k moves up since we're in normal mode now). This is why I use `jj` instead of `jk`/`kj` -- as a native English speaker in a job where everyone primarily speaks English, there are few cases where I'd be writing code with a `jj` naturally in a string.
roland35 7y ago
I haven't had that happen yet with jk at least, I could see jj triggering something if you have the timeout setting too long.
L3viathan 7y ago
There's also vim-arpeggio, with which you can define mappings for simultanously held-down keys: https://github.com/kana/vim-arpeggio https://github.com/kana/vim-arpeggio