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Don't forget that the Touch Bar costs an additional $400 for consumers. The 2015 model was the best MacBook Pro. Perhaps the best laptop yet.
by charleshan 7y ago
Don't forget that the Touch Bar costs an additional $400 for consumers.
The 2015 model was the best MacBook Pro. Perhaps the best laptop yet.
- merb 7y agobtw. the 16" model is cheaper than the 15" from the year before (in the base configuration they are equal, if you add additional ssd space or so, the 16" model comes out cheaper). not that it matters much, since the 15" pro late 2013 model was cheaper than both.
- lowercased 7y agoI just got a 2019 at end of May - earlier 2015 broke, needed one ASAP. Didn't want a Touch Bar (had returned a 2016 model I got on release - didn't like it). Now... same price, this has physical escape key and 1TB out of the box. Slightly annoyed...
- merb 7y agoyeah I would be annoyed also. I knew that my late 2013 has his issues after hard usage (battery swelled, etc) so I need one really soon, but I knew that the 2019/2020 will have a new model so I waited exactly for that.
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- lowercased 7y agowish I could have waited these 6 months.
- mrep 7y agoHave you gone to apple for the battery swelling issue? I took mine in after part of the trackpad stopped working and a fan starting whining non-stop. They ended up replacing the case, battery, fan, and potentially even the keyboard and screen (looked like it from what I could tell) for only $300. It felt brand new when I got it back.
- bluedino 7y agoTo be fair you could get the 15" for $2099 from various resellers
- merb 7y agowell these resellers probably didn't made a lot of money from hardware sales and more through extensions/cables/whatever.
- bastien-brd 7y agoAgreed, I'm still on a 2015 model and still super happy, even battery life is OK. Every time a new MacBook Pro is announced, I'm a bit excited but then I compare and I find no good enough incentive to upgrade yet. I'm secretly hoping that my 2015 model dies so I can upgrade to a newer sexier one, but the damn beast keeps on working great.
- WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago2013 MBP 13" here... not gonna happen.
- ElCapitanMarkla 7y ago2013 Air 13” here...
- grecy 7y agoI just upgraded from that to a 13" MBP. Very happy.
- abledon 7y agoLate 2013 15" MBP, will definitely upgrade to 2015 15" when it dies in a few years.
- dmihal 7y agoOnce my 2015 MBP dies, I'll probably replace it with the most maxed-out refurbished 2015 MBP I can find. It's the perfect laptop.
- rndgermandude 7y agoI've looked, out of curiosity, at the prices you pay for refurbished ones around here (Germany), and most offers for the refurbished 2015 now exceed what I paid for a new one back in 2015 (same configuration, of course). It would seem, there is demand.
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- StreamBright 7y agoSame with iPhone 6s. Not sure why can't admit that reached the peak with a product and just keep producing it that way, maybe with minor modifications only. I would totally keep buying 2015 MPBs and iPhone6s till the end of times.
- wingerlang 7y agoIsn't this kind of like the "they'd ask for faster horses" quote?
- augustk 7y agoExactly what I was thinking: "Our pro customers tell us they want their next horse to have blazing-fast performance etc."
- StreamBright 7y agoThis is exactly it. I need a horse, it can be slightly faster, not required though. There is no horse vs car improvement between iPhone 6s vs iPhone 11, but they removed jack and increased price for no good reason. Btw. I do not think that there can be a horse vs car bump in UX for phones. Maybe I am my imagination is limited. :)
- briandear 7y ago> but they removed jack and increased price for no good reason Have you actually used the camera on 11 Pro? Have you seen the display? No good reason — that’s ridiculous.
- StreamBright 7y agoYes, non of those matter to me. Jack port does.
- wingerlang 7y agoMaybe it is not a car from a horse, but it certainly is a motorcycle in terms of UX improvements. FaceID, swipe interactions over a button and IMO the removed chin makes it all into a big user experience jump.
- aczerepinski 7y agoI'm still using mine at work. I got a 2018 once and then went back to IT a few hours later and asked if I could trade back.
- criddell 7y agoIt always seemed backwards that the touch bar is a pro feature. Aren't pros the group that learn all the keyboard commands? The touch bar seems like it would be most useful to non-pro users.
- BurningFrog 7y agoYeah, I think "pro" just means "expensive" :)
- ArPDent 7y agothe term " pro " appeared (by my count) 56 times in the apple press release. Pro to me is now just a marketing term.
- foobiekr 7y agoAirPod Pro.
- drngdds 7y agoThey're Pro because they block out the noise surrounding you when you're trying to work in a godawful open-plan office
- jakear 7y agoFunny, I actually bought them for the transparency mode, precisely so that I can hear the clickity clacking of everyone's mechanical keyboards. It's comforting.
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- sbov 7y agoMy assumption has always been that the "Pro" line is aimed at content creators. Because in lots of professional work you would want a plethora of ports which Apple doesn't give you. When they started removing ports I use I switched to a Thinkpad T-series. It's been the perfect laptop for my use.
- xondono 7y agoI got the mid 2015 with all the bells and whistles. The only thing the new macs have that I would like is space grey finish.
- fastball 7y agoAnd better specs.
- lame88 7y agoProblem is the video card performance is absolute garbage on that thing. Somehow seeming to perform even worse than a prior model I had.
- Tyr42 7y ago2011 model was the best. I upgraded the RAM and hard drive myself over the years
- jobu 7y agoMy personal Macbook Pro is from 2014 and I actually like it better than my 2015 for work. Apple switched from NVIDIA to AMD graphics cards in 2015 and it seems to have had a huge thermal impact. The fans on my work machine run at full speed constantly whenever I plug in an external monitor, but I almost never hear them on my personal machine.
- RowanH 7y agoMy 2012 Retina was solid, lasted for 7 years till the battery just started going. Had they not glued it in I would have replaced battery and kept going.. hunted for a replacement and really not happy with anything. A compromise was switching to a Razer Blade Base (here in New Zealand we have Consumer Gaurentees Act - so even if it's iffy quality next 5 or so years I can get it fixed for free). From a quality perspective still doesn't really touch a 7 year old machine.... yes it's awesomely fast and at least upgradeable. But the trackpad definitely not the same sensitivity & consistency, chassis I think is ever so slightly warped, fan and heat when it's plugged in is a problem, and screen, well....
- trimbo 7y ago> here in New Zealand we have Consumer Gaurentees Act - so even if it's iffy quality next 5 or so years I can get it fixed for free A quick search reveals the Razer costs around $500 USD more in NZ than in the US (converted prices to USD). The MBP 16" is $400 more. Wouldn't part of the reason it costs more be because of this legislation?
- RowanH 7y agoGenerally speaking we have taxes included in our pricing (often forgotten when doing conversions) and because small market we often get "taken for a ride" as there's limited volume. Not many people actually use the CGA, but if you know about it, it's gold :)
- reubenswartz 7y agoYou can get a battery replacement kit from iFixit and do the repair yourself. Not trivial, but really not bad.
- anm89 7y agoThat is absolutely nutty. 400 for some gimmick? You can get a decently specd laptop these days for $400.
- jonknee 7y agoThey aren't though, they all have them so it's not a line item cost.
- kabacha 7y ago> Perhaps the best laptop yet. I'm sure that would go to one of the old Thinkpads; e.g. X220 still has a massive cult following to the point where it's being moded with modern parts just so people could still use it. You have a very valid point though - seems like 2010-2015 was the golden age of modern laptops then innovation was replaced by gimmick all of a sudden.