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OMG, I'm very depressed as a user who loves the butterfly mechanism. I hate the wobbly feeling that the scissor mechanism produces. Apple didn't need to return

OMG, I'm very depressed as a user who loves the butterfly mechanism. I hate the wobbly feeling that the scissor mechanism produces. Apple didn't need to return to the scissor mechanism, it should have reiterated the design. I'm very disappointed that Apple just gave up & used the safe way of regressing back. It feels like Apple is losing the spirit of doing things itself, whether other people dislikes it. Apple is more and more becoming a usual company that just does what consumers demands. And I'm sad with that.

zellyn 7y ago
“And they didn’t throw away the good parts of the butterfly keyboard — including excellent backlighting and especially the increased stability, where keys go down flat even when pressed off-center. The keys on this keyboard don’t wobble like the keys on pre-2016 MacBook Pro keyboards do.” — https://daringfireball.net/2019/11/16-inch_macbook_pro_first_impressions https://daringfireball.net/2019/11/16-inch_macbook_pro_first...
- pcr910303 7y ago
  Wow, that's pretty great! I'm not sure I'll change my mind until I actually touch them, but that's pretty great, kind of removes my stereotypes of scissor keyboards.
jasonsync 7y ago
The Butterfly mechanism was tainted by a number of design flaws that forced Apple to provide a soft recall: https://support.apple.com/keyboard-service-program-for-mac-notebooks https://support.apple.com/keyboard-service-program-for-mac-n... I'm literally getting my new Macbook serviced today due to sticky butterfly keys.
- themagician 7y ago
  All they really had to do was find a way to make the keys more easily removable. The butterfly mechanism is really nice when it works, but when a single key can stick and there is no easy way to clean / replace it so you have to replace the entire cop case which is insane.
  - jasonsync 7y ago
    Sounds so simple. And you are correct. Just got back from the Genius Bar, they have to replace the entire top case because the R key tends to stick or misfire. 2 week repair because they don't have the parts. Sounds like an expensive repair for a single key. The person sitting next to me had the exact same issue (but different keys)!

zellyn 7y ago

“And they didn’t throw away the good parts of the butterfly keyboard — including excellent backlighting and especially the increased stability, where keys go down flat even when pressed off-center. The keys on this keyboard don’t wobble like the keys on pre-2016 MacBook Pro keyboards do.” — https://daringfireball.net/2019/11/16-inch_macbook_pro_first_impressions https://daringfireball.net/2019/11/16-inch_macbook_pro_first...

pcr910303 7y ago
Wow, that's pretty great! I'm not sure I'll change my mind until I actually touch them, but that's pretty great, kind of removes my stereotypes of scissor keyboards.

jasonsync 7y ago

The Butterfly mechanism was tainted by a number of design flaws that forced Apple to provide a soft recall: https://support.apple.com/keyboard-service-program-for-mac-notebooks https://support.apple.com/keyboard-service-program-for-mac-n... I'm literally getting my new Macbook serviced today due to sticky butterfly keys.

themagician 7y ago
All they really had to do was find a way to make the keys more easily removable. The butterfly mechanism is really nice when it works, but when a single key can stick and there is no easy way to clean / replace it so you have to replace the entire cop case which is insane.
- jasonsync 7y ago
  Sounds so simple. And you are correct. Just got back from the Genius Bar, they have to replace the entire top case because the R key tends to stick or misfire. 2 week repair because they don't have the parts. Sounds like an expensive repair for a single key. The person sitting next to me had the exact same issue (but different keys)!