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> Like that ex-Googler who got fired for repeatedly claiming that women were inferior engineers. Who? Please provide quotes to support your case if you’re thin

> Like that ex-Googler who got fired for repeatedly claiming that women were inferior engineers. Who? Please provide quotes to support your case if you’re thinking of the most famous example because I don’t recall any such argument. It was all about interests, not capacities.

JohnBooty 7y ago
Sure, here's his original essay. https://web.archive.org/web/20170809220001/https://diversitymemo-static.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Googles-Ideological-Echo-Chamber.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170809220001/https://diversity...
- ThrowawayR2 7y ago
  All the essay shows is that your representation of his beliefs is obviously false.
  - DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
    Damore's essay seems to be a kind of Rorschach test. People sympathetic to Damore's views (or at least, to his approach to debate) seem to trust that he's arguing in good faith. People strongly opposed to his views seem to think he's being disingenuous.
    - ThrowawayR2 7y ago
      If those are my choices, I'd place myself in the "sympathetic with his approach to debate" bucket.
      - DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
        Feel free to add to the list of choices. I didn't mean to create a false dichotomy.
    - username90 7y ago
      Since Damore explicitly said that he thought that the women working at Google had passed the same bar as the men, and hence are all qualified to be there, anyone who say "Damore wanted women to get paid less" or "Damore wanted women to get fired from Google" or anything like that just didn't read the words. They might have read the memo, but not the words, they saw that some of the things he said resembled alt-right talking points and then assumed that he had all the normal alt-right beliefs. Note that I still think there are some questionable things in the memo, but the way people demonize it shows that they can't read controversial texts or didn't read it and just relied on second hand information from those who can't read controversial texts.
    - mos_basik 7y ago
      Also known as a scissor statement [0] 0: (posted here regularly) https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/10/30/sort-by-controversial/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/10/30/sort-by-controversial/

JohnBooty 7y ago

Sure, here's his original essay. https://web.archive.org/web/20170809220001/https://diversitymemo-static.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Googles-Ideological-Echo-Chamber.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170809220001/https://diversity...

ThrowawayR2 7y ago
All the essay shows is that your representation of his beliefs is obviously false.
- DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
  Damore's essay seems to be a kind of Rorschach test. People sympathetic to Damore's views (or at least, to his approach to debate) seem to trust that he's arguing in good faith. People strongly opposed to his views seem to think he's being disingenuous.
  - ThrowawayR2 7y ago
    If those are my choices, I'd place myself in the "sympathetic with his approach to debate" bucket.
    - DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
      Feel free to add to the list of choices. I didn't mean to create a false dichotomy.
  - username90 7y ago
    Since Damore explicitly said that he thought that the women working at Google had passed the same bar as the men, and hence are all qualified to be there, anyone who say "Damore wanted women to get paid less" or "Damore wanted women to get fired from Google" or anything like that just didn't read the words. They might have read the memo, but not the words, they saw that some of the things he said resembled alt-right talking points and then assumed that he had all the normal alt-right beliefs. Note that I still think there are some questionable things in the memo, but the way people demonize it shows that they can't read controversial texts or didn't read it and just relied on second hand information from those who can't read controversial texts.
  - mos_basik 7y ago
    Also known as a scissor statement [0] 0: (posted here regularly) https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/10/30/sort-by-controversial/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/10/30/sort-by-controversial/