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The Googler got fired for using unhelpful stereotypes. He didn't repeatedly claim women were inferior engineers (but I understand why people will believe it).
by thinkingemote 7y ago
The Googler got fired for using unhelpful stereotypes.
He didn't repeatedly claim women were inferior engineers (but I understand why people will believe it). Nor was it in my opinion intolerant but it was championed by those who are (there's a difference). It was some other unhelpful stereotype based on gender differences.
The key take away is that generalising based on group Identity should not be done.
- DagAgren 7y agoYeah, none of that is the case. The first thing he did after being fired was run to the far-right propaganda outlets. That was very telling of what he actually believed.
- indy 7y ago"far-right propaganda outlets"? This is very telling about what you actually believe
- dang 7y agoPlease don't take HN threads further into ideological flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Tyr42 7y agoYou mean the only people who seemed to show him any compassionate, reach out to him or not interpret his actions as negatively as possible are who he started to associate with? Mild shock
- DagAgren 7y agoIf a despicable person shows me kindness, I will not reciprocate. He did. That tells volumes about him.
- SquishyPanda23 7y agoDid you actually follow this? His rant was basically just of a list of stock arguments from the scientific racism era. After he got fired his fans started a fundraiser on a white supremacy website. His arguments were stock white supremacy and the people who adopted him as a hero were stock white supremacists. This isn't hard to figure out.
- thinkingemote 7y agoAs I wrote, I understand why people think this. I think it's more accurate to say his rant was a list from the era of a generation ago which might be the same as the scientific racism era? I don't know.
- mrrrgn 7y agoI'm trying to figure out what you mean by "white supremacy" because you use it so often it seems like something nebulous. -- So it seems that "white supremacy" is a catchall term for anything that argues a biological basis for group differences. Thank you for the links and for not just being aghast that I didn't know this. :]
- SquishyPanda23 7y agoI'm not sure if you're joking, but white supremacy has a long history and is extremely well documented. Wikipedia is a reasonable place to start
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- JohnBooty 7y agoWe'll Google it for you. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/James_Damore#Sex_and_drugs_and_the_KKK https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/James_Damore#Sex_and_drugs_and... RationalWiki has a very opinionated take on things, but that article is very well-sourced (75 linked sources!) so you can read right up. Now, it could fairly be said that his pro-KKK arguments were more "glib humor" than endorsement and I'd agree. I would also say it's part of the pattern of negative workplace behavior that got him terminated. In a larger sense, its these "oh, [group A] isn't performing as well as [group B]... must be biological differences" arguments that often form the faux-scientific basis for discrimination. Read any racist literature, and you will find a lot of "science" claiming that [insert racial group] here is biologically inferior. And, yes, that includes much Nazi propaganda.... justifications used by American slave-owners, etc.
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